Gonna be trying furry convention next month
Becoming a furry just to get in a line of work is like changing religion for the community support
Child care is expensive - church offers that.
Im sure there is a hidden cost that youre not seeing.
Depends how good you are at playing the part, without actually doing any of the bad stuff. Churches vary, but often, it’s one of those places where using the tribal symbols is more important than actual substance, so taking advantage is very possible.
See: Whatever super-rich televangelist. If you’re doing something similar because you’re poor and can’t afford childcare, there’s an argument that’s not even bad, then.
without actually doing any of the bad stuff.
They all indoctrinate children, and while you did comment on that shared tradition later, it’s worth highlighting as unavoidable —not to mention heinous as it attacks the unarmed and generally trusting minds of children. 😢
Yeah, I’m not actually sure what OP meant, now. If your kid’s in Sunday school, aren’t you going to be spending time in the service, anyway? I guess if you just dropped them and ran, it’d be hard for them to say no.
Maybe you could get away with that when they’re really little. Once they’re school aged, leaving them unsupervised would be better than in the hands of whatever bunch of church ladies, and the Catholic church has a whole other layer of reputation.
From their perspective, we’re the ones trying to hide our children from ideas that are correct and vital, so they can justify it to themselves. Trying to defend the standard, evangelical version of hell is harder, which is why it’s good to bring up.
yeah, pedophilia, indoctrination, cult based on lies, and shame culture that is based on lies and falsehoods. probably more. but child care is so expensive.
“they might be pedophiles but at least they offer free childcare”
Hmmmm
NGL, that’s gotta confuse the hell outta the rare MAGAt “thinker”—even their coprolithic idol doesn’t offer childcare at any level.
Same…maybe then i find a job again lol
I found joining a job search counsel via the book never search alone to be helpful. You didn’t have to read the book first because reading the book is part of the JSC.
Might be worth your time looking into it.
Im looking for work and trying to understand what you said.
Here: https://www.neversearchalone.org/jsc
I would also recommend the book Take the Work Out of Networking.
I’ve talked to several recruiters, and outside of entry level positions none of them are interviewing anyone who doesn’t have a referral because there are so many referrals they find enough qualified candidates before they get to the non-referrals. That’s a product of just how bad the job market is.
I’m about to post two jobs myself with a total comp of ~$180k and I already have enough referrals that I won’t interview anyone that isn’t a referral. And the posting isn’t even up yet.
The JSC via Never Search Alone paired with Take the Work Out of Networking has all the skills and advice needed to navigate the current job market as successfully as possible.
I wish you all the best, and am happy to answer as many questions as I can if you’d like.
The internet really messed with things. We put a help-wanted ad in the local paper in 2000, specifically said in the ad “local candidates only” - I received 400+ applications in the first week, ~300 of them from out of town, 20+ of them from other countries. Sorting through the pile (they were still snail-mailed in those days) I came across a local candidate who worked with a company we regularly did business with, had our guy call his ex-manager and asked one question “would you re-hire him if you had the chance?” Answer was yes. We hired him, he was good.
My sincere apologies if your application was in the bottom of the stack and you were better qualified. Life is like that most of the time.
Woah, this maybe a good way of contributing what seems to be a skill I have. Not trying to brag but as a 33 year old skidmark on the national economy, I am currently batting 1000 on job interviews over my life. I have multiple times just quit a job on the spot and had a new one before weeks end. I’m not sure why, or how, but I have never been interviewed and not offered the job. Mind, none of them have required “skills” or “education” beyond what I’ve picked up along the way, they could be called entry level jobs but I’ve never really seen a path upward in any of the companies, doesn’t seem to work like that anymore. Just jobs, ~$40k a year usually with benefits. I have always had a hard time understanding why people who “can’t find work” don’t just take a job that’s available while they look for the perfect one. Spoiler, I have never found a perfect job, aside from working for myself.
I’ll pick up on one piece, humbling ourselves to take a job we see as below us is hard. I’ve done it before and it was a huge ego hit. A friend who’s been unemployed for over a year is facing that now. It’s not an easy path.
And some income is often better than none.
I guess I have never seen a paying job as “below me”. Some jobs aren’t worth the pay, but that’s different imo. Cleaning up sewer overflow after a storm for $20/hr in 2010 wasn’t enough, but $40 sure was.
Because often, if they can even get it, the “job thats available” is so physically/mentally demanding that job searching while you have the job is untenable. They often dont give leeway for job interviews, so even trying is risking your only source of support for the vague chance of something that might be better.
We live under a extrovert dictatorship.
And yet even when I’m part of the ruling class I manage to get screwed… It’s not my fault I only want to socialize about things I like
I love every single word in that sentence! And I hate that it’s right.
Congrats on your new job in Quantico?
Whos Quantico?
Ah this place where careers go to die. But they love animals there.
Yeah, I’m sorry I don’t really know the reference. It seems to be a TV series or a town in the US
Yeah it’s a big military/fbi town. The joke was the FBI removed the exemption of people who’ve had sex with animals. I never thought I would see that reading the news.
An early job of mine was in the FBI Academy cafeteria. Very familiar with the area. Forgot about the “loving animals” reference, so it took your explanation for me to catch the joke.
That’s pretty cool. My sister and brother in law are there now so I’ll be taking a visit there.
Let me know how that goes.
Is there an Intro to Furry Guide and a FAQ?
Are there classes I can take to get Furry Certified?
Do I need to engage in sexual activity which doesn’t align with my current non-furry orientation?
It’s a one question quiz, actually:
Do you want to be a furry? Yes or no?
If yes, congrats! You’re now a furry.
I’m actually an asexual furry. So no, you don’t have to engage in any sex at all. I like the aesthetic and I’ve met a bunch of my friends through the fandom as a shared point of commonality.
Probably the biggest question you’ll get asked as a new furry is “what is your fursona?” If you say you don’t have one, everyone will make a pitch to try to sell you on theirs. (psst Maned wolves are cool.)
For a more in depth explanation, take a look at furscience. They’re an actual research institution studying the fandom.
Maned wolves are cool
As someone who lives where they are naturally occurring, I can confirm that they are cool. There’s also a specific tree (lobeira, Solanum lycocarpum) that’s essential to their diet and needs those wolves to reproduce.
maned wolves are cool as hell!!!
One thing that seemed to be contentious back in the day was whether us bronies were furries.
Furries are typically nonsexual. It’s more often than not just roleplay for autistics.
Source, autistic furry who doesn’t want to fuck in the extremely expensive fursuit
There’s 2 types of furries:
I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, I don’t want to ruin it by having sex in it!
I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, of course I’m going to use it for sex!
There is a much more common third type of furry: “I want a fursuit soooo bad but I don’t have $10k+ lying around so in the meantime I guess I’ll go to furry conventions and have sex without one”
So, they’re furry adjacent, optimally. ☝🏼
a fursuit is not a requirement for being a furry
I’m guessing people would be weirded out if they knew you weren’t actually furry-inclined, so it’s probably more down to being a good actor, if you’re just there to network. And then basic networking skills, after that.
Conventions generally are great for networking
And for getting laid
I heard of some guy working 20+ years for blizzard because his dad knew someone in the Company. But he doesn’t mention it that often.
I dunno I’d put furry convention higher
I’m not really sure if recruiters aren’t at the lowest step there.
The type of recruiter is a missing detail there. If you work with a “headhunting” agency they have connections to positions they don’t have anywhere else. If you can build a good relationship with a strong recruiter, you can land some pretty sweet gigs. My last two jobs were through the same recruiter I’ve known for over a decade. Stuck with him even as he changed agencies.
I never got anywhere with recruiters
sighs…puts on the fox suit
G: walk in and demand to speak to the manager
That’s K, for Karen Method
Knowing a guy is a goated strat tbh, hardest part is being competent enough that someone you know would vouch for you
I know my mother-in-law, and she knows everyone apparently. Excellent strategy on my part, having a sibling that got married. 40 years in the making that plan.
sounds like you’re not faking it enough
why fake it when you could be good at what you do?
Because by the time you got good at what a job expects you to be good at, they’re already forcing you to do something else
Yeah I made a career change and am now freelancing. I have not applied for a job in 5 years. It’s kinda nice.
Just to be the contrarian: my first job in my current industry was through a recruiter on LinkedIn. It got me an instant 50% salary bump and after a few years and promotions I was making double the previous job.
My second job was… through a recruiter on LinkedIn. It got me an instant 30% salary bump and now after more years and promotions I’m over double the first job.
This in in a country where I had immigrated 10 years prior. For me linkedin is the best social network ever.
Not a contrarian take, happy that worked for and to hear your success story.
Who initiated the conversation with recruiter? you or them?
Linkedin never worked for me, not in the beginning in my career, not 10 years later but maybe I was using it wrong (first job was some random job board, 2nd was cold emailing a CTO, …)
Always the recruiter initiating. As anyone working in IT, I get multiple messages a week, one in ten are relevant and one in ten of those are interesting, but I’m not jumping jobs every year, so it works in the end.
Its really just have a complete profile, listing keyword technologies. In the meantime I have a few recommendations but I don’t think those make a difference.
How long has it been since you were recruited? I avoid LinkedIn, but I’ve never needed to look for work because my dad knew a guy and I proved competent when that got my foot in the door.
Still, from what I have heard in the last year or so it has become, at least in part, a cesspool of scams and disingenuous employers wasting your time in their search for cheaper labor… both often powered by LLMs.
First one more than a decade ago, second one about 7 years ago, definitely pre-LLM era.
I still receive messages regularly and I don’t notice any difference from messages on the past. I answer one every now and then and it’s usually a real person. Maybe they are using LLM, but before that they just copy pasted a template and changed you name…
Are you telling me that a human sending form messages is in any way comparable to an LLM sending messages?
What matters is that humans used to be involved. Now they just review the results at some point. You are evaluated, chosen, further evaluated, informed, and given answers to questions you might have about a job and the company offering it all by the LLM. Everything that might theoretically be handled by agents saves the company money and let’s them cast a wider net.
Then you’ll be end up working as a reverse centaur for some rich kid’s startup. Sure, you can spend exponentially more time than the company does verifying things or ignoring, filtering through junk… but if you are desperate, unemployed, hopeful…
Theoretically, at least.
I have similar experience with Linkedin.
Job platforms so bad that D and E just got yeeted into the shadow realm i guess
job platforms are the grindr of job search… flaky, poorly built, disappointing experiences, and you feel dirty afterwards
(and this isn’t slut shaming; this is just… grindr is a trash fire)
Grindr is DEFINITELY a better job searching platform though
I forgot Monster still existed.
If i recall correctly, it’s more like tinder now (or as of 5 years ago - the last time I looked at it)
I have so many questions…
Lol - just that you swipe the jobs left or right depending on whether you want to apply or not.
I saw that and promptly uninstalled it. I haven’t tried it again since then.
As a furry that doesn’t attend conventions, this is having me reconsider it.
i reckon you could walk away from a con with a new job, living situation, and even a romantic partner if you wanted. furries are weirdly good at networking for how often they’re treated as weird pariahs by normies.
They are outcasts of society, so they stick together. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a network of furies all looking out for each other in every field. They probably have a secret handshake or wink or something.
The absence of shame is almost a social superpower.
