Imagine being this triggered by the existence of people who actually care about believing in true things. It’s a very odd reaction. I hope you’re doing ok, bud.
And yeah dude, that’s exactly what I’m saying and what I believe. That atheists cannot be rapists. That’s a completely reasonable and logical inference to make. 🙄
Yes, I forget that the Nazis was following the precepts of Christ, Muhammed and Buddha when they perpetrated colonialist slaughter all over eastern Europe and Russia.
The Nazies were “Christians”. The Catholic Church supported the Nazis, what are you talking about? Germany is a Christian country, what are you talking about?
So did thousands of edgelord atheists. Your point?
Germany is a Christian country,
Ahh yes… the country that perpetrated mass-murder on the very people Christ was born amongst, identified with and spent his entire life interacting with.
Should be easy to prove your hypothesis, then, shouldn’t it?
Provide some proof that the centuries-long orgy of murder, rape and torture the (so-called) “west” visited on the world (which has by no means ended here in the year of our lord 2026) can be traced back to something Christ said or did.
No, no, no, Clyde - the hysterical and ludicrously ahistorical screeds being regurgitated on here by you lot literally absolves them. Your (thoroughly contrived) problem is with religion itself, remember?
That is what you are blaming for all this, remember?
Go look at the first responses to my reply if you don’t believe me, okay?
Okay you’re ignorance went from sad to really fucking disturbing. You don’t understand that Christians have been carrying out pogroms against Jewish communities for thousands of years now? Like how?
Your god sends bears to kill children because they offended him.
Your god is a psychopath.
Yaweh also killed all of humanity because they didn’t listen to him.
Again psychopathic behavior.
I could go on but you would accuse me of being an edge lord, like it bothers me, or something(it just makes me roll my eyes and think less of your intellectual abilities).
Nice attempt at a pivot, but I’m not triggered I’m disappointed by your lack of intellect and your small minded outlook of humanity(you would know this if your reading comprehension skills were were equal to or above a third grade level).
Oh good… for a minute there I was almost convinced the paroxysms of hysteria you and your edgelords friends were performing on here was about to result in medically significant consequences.
Glad to know it was all fake.
small minded outlook of humanity
LOOL!
Do tell, Clyde - why has no human society in history ever rejected religion, hm? A (supposedly) enlightened humanity understander like you should have no trouble coming up with a non-laughable (ie… not standard edgelord atheist bullcrap) reason why, shouldn’t you?
Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, himself a former Roman Catholic, was one of the main promoters of the Gottgläubig faith.[2] He was particularly hostile towards Christianity, its values, the churches, and their clergy.[2] Himmler viewed all of Christianity and the priesthood as nothing but an indecent union, with the majority of its priesthood constituting “an erotic homosexual league of men” whose only purpose was to create and maintain a “twenty-thousand-year-old Bolshevism.”[2] To the Reichsführer-SS Christianity was the greatest plague delivered by history, and he demanded that it be dealt with accordingly.[2] A perennial favorite song of the storm troopers had this refrain: "Storm Trooper Comrades, hang the Jews and put the priests against the wall.
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To the Reichsführer-SS Christianity was the greatest plague delivered by history, and he demanded that it be dealt with accordingly.
Sounds a lot like some of the hysterical edgelords on here, don’t you think?
was one of the main promoters of the Gottgläubig faith
That was literally a religious category for people who left organized religion but still believe in (the Christian) God. Actual atheist organizations where attacked by the SA.
Yeah I’m pretty sure you’re gonna want to do a little more research about religion in Nazi Germany before continuing this line of reasoning because… Lol
following the precepts of Christ, Muhammed and Buddha when they perpetrated colonialist slaughter all over eastern Europe and Russia.
You might also want to actually read these books, because all three of them explicitly condone genocide.
Edit: Missed Buddha, I was referring to the three Abrahamic religions.
Not sure why you brought up Buddha, but Buddhism isn’t exempt. Just look at Myanmar.
Yeah I’m pretty sure you’re gonna want to do a little more research
Let’s do that, then.
Wikipedia entry on Heinrich Himmler -
Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, himself a former Roman Catholic, was one of the main promoters of the Gottgläubig faith.[2] He was particularly hostile towards Christianity, its values, the churches, and their clergy.[2] Himmler viewed all of Christianity and the priesthood as nothing but an indecent union, with the majority of its priesthood constituting “an erotic homosexual league of men” whose only purpose was to create and maintain a “twenty-thousand-year-old Bolshevism.”[2] To the Reichsführer-SS Christianity was the greatest plague delivered by history, and he demanded that it be dealt with accordingly.[2] A perennial favorite song of the storm troopers had this refrain: "Storm Trooper Comrades, hang the Jews and put the priests against the wall.
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To the Reichsführer-SS Christianity was the greatest plague delivered by history, and he demanded that it be dealt with accordingly.
Sounds a lot like some of the hysterical edgelords on here, don’t you think?
If you’re going to try and use history to prop up your shittakes, edgelord, you shouldn’t be surprised when somebody who knows a whole lot more of it than you show up to accept the challenge.
If you want to define religion as “edgy hippy shit”, then I guess. And yes, people regularly launch screeds against paganist religions and occultist religions all the time.
But your sad attempts at insults and trolling could be good, if you at least put a little effort into them. Try making coherent sentences, as a starter.
Sooo… you don’t claim the three most destructive conflicts ever waged - WW1, WW2, and the (so-called) “Cold War” - was “guided by religion” (whatever the edgelord brainrot-sufferes think that means) and you assume that (somehow) proves your point?
I just love the way you keep building your argument on things that were never said. What do the commandments say? Thou shalt not bear false witness? Oof. Guess you’re going to hell, buddy.
And at what point in that quote did I mention World War I or the Cold War? I didn’t. Not to mention the fact that the figure I gave was sarcasm. I would think the way I said it might give that away, but here we are.
I’ll make it simple for you: essentially every major conflict man has ever experienced has been the result of one group deciding that their sky genie is better than another group’s, so that means it’s alright to kill them. Even the ones that preach love and acceptance put a giant fucking asterisk on it. Buddhism is the only real exception, and that’s because it’s not even a religion in the same way the others are.
Christians? Ongoing conflicts in the middle east, with the dumbest and most evil amongst them calling it a “holy war”.
Catholics? A history of pedophilia, rape and murder stretching from the crusades all the way up until now.
Muslims? Same shit different name.
And yes, it’s obviously not all INSERT RELIGIOUS GROUP HERE, but that doesn’t change the fact that hatred and othering of those who don’t agree is a core tenet of all major religions.
And at what point in that quote did I mention World War I or the Cold War?
So you actually are trying to claim WW1 or the Cold War was driven by religion?
Not to mention the fact that the figure I gave was sarcasm.
Howzabout a real one, then? Count the wars that you think wasn’t caused by religion - shouldn’t be too difficult. After all, the list cannot possibly be long (according to you), can it?
ssentially every major conflict man has ever experienced has been the result of one group deciding that their sky genie
Quick, call the historians! This genius right here has figured it all out! War is never about all-pervading imperialist exploitation, complicated class dynamics or geopolitical competition… NO! It’s all about a “sky genie!”
Who coulda thunk it, eh?
Where the fuck did you get your history from, genius! Playing Age Of Empires, maybe?
Christians? Ongoing conflicts in the middle east,
I hate to break it to you, Clyde… but the white supremacist empires haven’t required religion to justify white supremacist slaughter since the (so-called) “Enlightenment.” Care to explain that, perhaps?
who don’t agree is a core tenet of all major religions.
Really?
“This letter contains the oath given unto them [the monks of St. Catherine’s Monastery], and he who disobeys that which is therein will be considered a disbeliever and a transgressor to that whereunto he is commanded. He will be regarded as one who has corrupted the oath of God, disbelieved His Testament, rejected His Authority, despised His Religion, and made himself deserving of His Curse, whether he is a Sultan or any other believer of Islam. Whenever Christian monks, devotees and pilgrims gather together, whether in a mountain or valley, or den, or frequented place, or plain, or church, or in houses of worship, verily we are [at the] back of them and shall protect them, and their properties and their morals, by Myself, by My Friends and by My Assistants, for they are of My Subjects and under My Protection."
Was slavery for religion? Was the genocide of native people’s for religion? Was the slaughter of people of the Amazon for religion? Are people, today, working themselves to death for religion? Is pollution and global warming for religion?
So yeah. People kill each other for dumb things. Religion. Money. Love. Lust. Name a thing and people have probably killed for it.
You know slavery still like, exists. Today. Right?
Catholicism did not have anything to do with expanding into the new world, it was for better trade routes.
You literally said the lust for gold was a reason for the conquistadors. I think Catholicism was an excuse to do what they did for money.
Arguing capitalism is a stretch.
And no, I don’t think deaths via pollution are a stretch at all. People are dying in droves because of pollution, from lung disease to water and food shortages to disasters caused by climate change, a thing gasoline companies knew would happen but wanted money. How many times has a company let people die because they want money?
It’s a secular murder.
Just because you’re mad at one type of religion doesn’t mean all religions are bad, anyone with a religion is bad, and literally every evil of the world must somehow be tied to religion.
Oh, I don’t know about that… I’d say that feudalist peasants would be rather terrified of our thoroughly unstable liberal boom-and-bust cycles.
And you conveniently forget that feudal peoples (and non-feudal peoples) all over the world had to be violently brutalised into accepting liberal economic realities… so there’s that.
Really, Clyde? Is the 300-hundred (and counting) years of mass-slaughter, mass-rape and mass-torture perpetrated by the west on the rest of the world “alt-history” to you now?
Honestly, I mostly see capitalism as a religion. It provides a narrative about the meaning of life. It provides rules that it’s followers should adhere to. It provides goals, restrictions, and social orders. It defines it’s own ethics, worldviews, texts, doctrines, and priorities.
Do you want to pretend that atheist edgelords actually care about slavery now?
How many of your fellow edgelords care about the fact that the US’s precious Constitution literally enshrines slavery in it’s 13th amendment, hmm? I don’t seem them doing their characteristic edgelord wanking about that…
Its technically right, there are no memes about it when you search it. Feels weird to exclude other posts about it(maybe they have the communities blocked or the client doesnt have a functional search for some reason?)
Replying to a comment about how religious people should be sent to another planet
If someone, on a post about an immigrant murdering another person, with the title and body text saying that immigrants should be sent to another planet, complains about the group of people that have said similar things, would you agree with the reply “Wow, super weird that the post about how murder is wrong set you off this hard…”?
Met me guess, you believe in a flat earth too, fake moon landing, dinosaur bones are a deception by Satan? Your garments better not have more than one kind of fiber or skydaddy will send you to hell. Fuck off guy
Yes, I also wish I could tie atheist edgelords to a rocket and send them to another planet (preferably one without a breathable atmosphere)
There is nothing more terrifying than atheists. Always using their lack of a God to not hurt people.
You’re not terrifying. Just irritating.
In a world of priest rapists and constant sexual abuse coverups, there is nothing worse than an irritating atheist 🙄
Grow the fuck up.
Are you trying to say atheists cannot be rapists?
What an insane question to ask someone
So that’s a no, self-styled “prole?”
Imagine being this triggered by the existence of people who actually care about believing in true things. It’s a very odd reaction. I hope you’re doing ok, bud.
And yeah dude, that’s exactly what I’m saying and what I believe. That atheists cannot be rapists. That’s a completely reasonable and logical inference to make. 🙄
Doesn’t look like I’m the one frothing at the mouth in hysterics here, Clyde… can’t say the same for your friends, though.
Are you really triggered by me, Clyde… or is it more that you’re really insecure about your almost-palpable irrelevence?
Lol! Edgelord atheists? Interested in “true things?”
That would be a first.
Obviously not
Good. Edgelord atheists’ grip on reality seems quite tenuos enough already without them claiming that.
You don’t believe in my magic sky wizard? Die!
It’s a space wizard, you heathen!
Im pretty sure it’s magic sky daddy.
Because it’s the atheists who committed genocides and hurt marginalised groups and stuff, yeah 🙄
Yes, I forget that the Nazis was following the precepts of Christ, Muhammed and Buddha when they perpetrated colonialist slaughter all over eastern Europe and Russia.
Right?
The Nazies were “Christians”. The Catholic Church supported the Nazis, what are you talking about? Germany is a Christian country, what are you talking about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Order
Are they not religious, did the Nazis not glorify them?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
So did thousands of edgelord atheists. Your point?
Ahh yes… the country that perpetrated mass-murder on the very people Christ was born amongst, identified with and spent his entire life interacting with.
What a “Christian” country, eh edgelord?
It is. Have you not paid attention to the two thousand years the Christianity has been around?
Should be easy to prove your hypothesis, then, shouldn’t it?
Provide some proof that the centuries-long orgy of murder, rape and torture the (so-called) “west” visited on the world (which has by no means ended here in the year of our lord 2026) can be traced back to something Christ said or did.
Wrong answer. We don’t trace things back to what he said, we trace if back to his followers actions.
Reminds me of the likely apocraphal quote “I do not hate your christ, I hate your Christians”
We are talking about people like you, not a dude who died 2000ish years ago.
No, no, no, Clyde - the hysterical and ludicrously ahistorical screeds being regurgitated on here by you lot literally absolves them. Your (thoroughly contrived) problem is with religion itself, remember?
That is what you are blaming for all this, remember?
Go look at the first responses to my reply if you don’t believe me, okay?
Okay you’re ignorance went from sad to really fucking disturbing. You don’t understand that Christians have been carrying out pogroms against Jewish communities for thousands of years now? Like how?
The (so-called) “west” has been doing that to far more people than Jewish ones, Clyde. Is your grip on history as firm as you think it is?
Shall we give it a thorough test, perhaps?
I’m sorry a second ago you said Christians don’t do that. What changed?
A second ago I said:
Shall we?
Your god sends bears to kill children because they offended him.
Your god is a psychopath.
Yaweh also killed all of humanity because they didn’t listen to him.
Again psychopathic behavior.
I could go on but you would accuse me of being an edge lord, like it bothers me, or something(it just makes me roll my eyes and think less of your intellectual abilities).
LOOL! My god?
I don’t think property laws extend to the supernatural, Clyde.
Do tell… are you this triggered because of me? Or because of the deep-seated insecurities all you edgelords seem to have in common?
Nice attempt at a pivot, but I’m not triggered I’m disappointed by your lack of intellect and your small minded outlook of humanity(you would know this if your reading comprehension skills were were equal to or above a third grade level).
Oh good… for a minute there I was almost convinced the paroxysms of hysteria you and your edgelords friends were performing on here was about to result in medically significant consequences.
Glad to know it was all fake.
LOOL!
Do tell, Clyde - why has no human society in history ever rejected religion, hm? A (supposedly) enlightened humanity understander like you should have no trouble coming up with a non-laughable (ie… not standard edgelord atheist bullcrap) reason why, shouldn’t you?
Literally Nazi Germany. Read a fucking history book, goddamn.
Let’s have a look, shall we?
Wikipedia entry on Heinrich Himmler -
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Sounds a lot like some of the hysterical edgelords on here, don’t you think?
That was literally a religious category for people who left organized religion but still believe in (the Christian) God. Actual atheist organizations where attacked by the SA.
Do tell… what symbol were atheists forced to wear in the death camps again?
Yeah I’m pretty sure you’re gonna want to do a little more research about religion in Nazi Germany before continuing this line of reasoning because… Lol
You might also want to actually read these books, because all three of them explicitly condone genocide.
Edit: Missed Buddha, I was referring to the three Abrahamic religions.
Not sure why you brought up Buddha, but Buddhism isn’t exempt. Just look at Myanmar.
Let’s do that, then.
Wikipedia entry on Heinrich Himmler -
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Sounds a lot like some of the hysterical edgelords on here, don’t you think?
If you’re going to try and use history to prop up your shittakes, edgelord, you shouldn’t be surprised when somebody who knows a whole lot more of it than you show up to accept the challenge.
Himmler was a paganist and occultist. You should read up on things before you talk about them.
So just… edgy hippy shit, eh?
Do tell… do you edgelords regularly launch screeds against those, too?
If you want to define religion as “edgy hippy shit”, then I guess. And yes, people regularly launch screeds against paganist religions and occultist religions all the time.
But your sad attempts at insults and trolling could be good, if you at least put a little effort into them. Try making coherent sentences, as a starter.
Strange… I don’t see edgelord atheists doing that at all. Mind showing me some examples?
Nooo… mine looks perfectly coherent. Can’t say the same for you, though.
Ah, yes, one of approximately three major conflicts not guided by religion. /s
The Nazis were “Christians”.
No need for the quotes
True enough.
Sooo… you don’t claim the three most destructive conflicts ever waged - WW1, WW2, and the (so-called) “Cold War” - was “guided by religion” (whatever the edgelord brainrot-sufferes think that means) and you assume that (somehow) proves your point?
I just love the way you keep building your argument on things that were never said. What do the commandments say? Thou shalt not bear false witness? Oof. Guess you’re going to hell, buddy.
This you?
Does being an edgelord come with selective amnesia, perhaps?
And at what point in that quote did I mention World War I or the Cold War? I didn’t. Not to mention the fact that the figure I gave was sarcasm. I would think the way I said it might give that away, but here we are.
I’ll make it simple for you: essentially every major conflict man has ever experienced has been the result of one group deciding that their sky genie is better than another group’s, so that means it’s alright to kill them. Even the ones that preach love and acceptance put a giant fucking asterisk on it. Buddhism is the only real exception, and that’s because it’s not even a religion in the same way the others are.
Christians? Ongoing conflicts in the middle east, with the dumbest and most evil amongst them calling it a “holy war”.
Catholics? A history of pedophilia, rape and murder stretching from the crusades all the way up until now.
Muslims? Same shit different name.
And yes, it’s obviously not all INSERT RELIGIOUS GROUP HERE, but that doesn’t change the fact that hatred and othering of those who don’t agree is a core tenet of all major religions.
So you actually are trying to claim WW1 or the Cold War was driven by religion?
Howzabout a real one, then? Count the wars that you think wasn’t caused by religion - shouldn’t be too difficult. After all, the list cannot possibly be long (according to you), can it?
Quick, call the historians! This genius right here has figured it all out! War is never about all-pervading imperialist exploitation, complicated class dynamics or geopolitical competition… NO! It’s all about a “sky genie!”
Who coulda thunk it, eh?
Where the fuck did you get your history from, genius! Playing Age Of Empires, maybe?
I hate to break it to you, Clyde… but the white supremacist empires haven’t required religion to justify white supremacist slaughter since the (so-called) “Enlightenment.” Care to explain that, perhaps?
Really?
You were saying, edgelord?
Religion is the greatest cause of pain and suffering of humanity, bar none, and your comment kind of proves mine. Have a blessed day.
Not money?
Was the inquisition for money? Was the Holocaust for money? How about genocides(pick one, there are so many) are they done for money?
Was slavery for religion? Was the genocide of native people’s for religion? Was the slaughter of people of the Amazon for religion? Are people, today, working themselves to death for religion? Is pollution and global warming for religion?
So yeah. People kill each other for dumb things. Religion. Money. Love. Lust. Name a thing and people have probably killed for it.
1 Paganism was the followed religion during slavery, those in power practiced it.
2 Catholicism is what drove the expansion into the new world.
3 Catholicism and lust for gold drove the conquistadors into the Amazon.
4 You have a point but we are not religious anymore and one might argue that capitalism is a form of religion.
5 Environmental deaths, really? Reaching much?
You know slavery still like, exists. Today. Right?
Catholicism did not have anything to do with expanding into the new world, it was for better trade routes.
You literally said the lust for gold was a reason for the conquistadors. I think Catholicism was an excuse to do what they did for money.
Arguing capitalism is a stretch.
And no, I don’t think deaths via pollution are a stretch at all. People are dying in droves because of pollution, from lung disease to water and food shortages to disasters caused by climate change, a thing gasoline companies knew would happen but wanted money. How many times has a company let people die because they want money?
It’s a secular murder.
Just because you’re mad at one type of religion doesn’t mean all religions are bad, anyone with a religion is bad, and literally every evil of the world must somehow be tied to religion.
Does climate change count?
That’s capitalism, Clyde - not religion. Unstick your head out of your arrse and stop confusing your own farts for reality, okay?
Hey clod, religion pre-dates capitalism by thousands of years, but go on telling me how my head is in my ass.
Aaaaaand?
He’s saying the dark ages were painful
And the ages before and after weren’t?
Im pretty sure feudalism is worse
Worse for whom?
For most of the population of a country using that system
Oh, I don’t know about that… I’d say that feudalist peasants would be rather terrified of our thoroughly unstable liberal boom-and-bust cycles.
And you conveniently forget that feudal peoples (and non-feudal peoples) all over the world had to be violently brutalised into accepting liberal economic realities… so there’s that.
Your first point I can agree with but your second point shows your ignorance.
Really, Clyde? Is the 300-hundred (and counting) years of mass-slaughter, mass-rape and mass-torture perpetrated by the west on the rest of the world “alt-history” to you now?
No surprises, I guess.
Honestly, I mostly see capitalism as a religion. It provides a narrative about the meaning of life. It provides rules that it’s followers should adhere to. It provides goals, restrictions, and social orders. It defines it’s own ethics, worldviews, texts, doctrines, and priorities.
Fair enough, I guess.
Wow, super weird that the comic whose message is anti-slavery set you off this hard…
Do you want to pretend that atheist edgelords actually care about slavery now?
How many of your fellow edgelords care about the fact that the US’s precious Constitution literally enshrines slavery in it’s 13th amendment, hmm? I don’t seem them doing their characteristic edgelord wanking about that…
lol literally everyone on Lemmy cares about that
Really?
Show me one (1) meme on here that addresses it. Just one.
Here’s the first example I saw on Google, maybe there’s better ones. Look at the comments. We’re on your side!
What does this have to do with the 13th Amendment?
Gee I wonder if this will happen with every example
You mean… reminding you of what the actual argument is all about?
Yes. Yes it absolutely will.
Or… you could just use the search tool, and look up “13th amendment”
I did. I saw no memes about it posted by edgelord atheists.
Have you ever considered fucking off?
It’d be great if you would fuck off
No edgelord. I think I’ll stay and point out your irrationality a bit longer.
No, you didn’t. If you are going to openly lie, at least try a little.
Then you should have no problem proving that, should you?
Its technically right, there are no memes about it when you search it. Feels weird to exclude other posts about it(maybe they have the communities blocked or the client doesnt have a functional search for some reason?)
Replying to a comment about how religious people should be sent to another planet
If someone, on a post about an immigrant murdering another person, with the title and body text saying that immigrants should be sent to another planet, complains about the group of people that have said similar things, would you agree with the reply “Wow, super weird that the post about how murder is wrong set you off this hard…”?
Met me guess, you believe in a flat earth too, fake moon landing, dinosaur bones are a deception by Satan? Your garments better not have more than one kind of fiber or skydaddy will send you to hell. Fuck off guy
LOOL!
You do know that Neill Armstrong was a Christian, right?
Do you think he thought the moon landing was fake, edgelord?