Was slavery for religion? Was the genocide of native people’s for religion? Was the slaughter of people of the Amazon for religion? Are people, today, working themselves to death for religion? Is pollution and global warming for religion?
So yeah. People kill each other for dumb things. Religion. Money. Love. Lust. Name a thing and people have probably killed for it.
You know slavery still like, exists. Today. Right?
Catholicism did not have anything to do with expanding into the new world, it was for better trade routes.
You literally said the lust for gold was a reason for the conquistadors. I think Catholicism was an excuse to do what they did for money.
Arguing capitalism is a stretch.
And no, I don’t think deaths via pollution are a stretch at all. People are dying in droves because of pollution, from lung disease to water and food shortages to disasters caused by climate change, a thing gasoline companies knew would happen but wanted money. How many times has a company let people die because they want money?
It’s a secular murder.
Just because you’re mad at one type of religion doesn’t mean all religions are bad, anyone with a religion is bad, and literally every evil of the world must somehow be tied to religion.
Oh, I don’t know about that… I’d say that feudalist peasants would be rather terrified of our thoroughly unstable liberal boom-and-bust cycles.
And you conveniently forget that feudal peoples (and non-feudal peoples) all over the world had to be violently brutalised into accepting liberal economic realities… so there’s that.
Really, Clyde? Is the 300-hundred (and counting) years of mass-slaughter, mass-rape and mass-torture perpetrated by the west on the rest of the world “alt-history” to you now?
Honestly, I mostly see capitalism as a religion. It provides a narrative about the meaning of life. It provides rules that it’s followers should adhere to. It provides goals, restrictions, and social orders. It defines it’s own ethics, worldviews, texts, doctrines, and priorities.
Religion is the greatest cause of pain and suffering of humanity, bar none, and your comment kind of proves mine. Have a blessed day.
Not money?
Was the inquisition for money? Was the Holocaust for money? How about genocides(pick one, there are so many) are they done for money?
Was slavery for religion? Was the genocide of native people’s for religion? Was the slaughter of people of the Amazon for religion? Are people, today, working themselves to death for religion? Is pollution and global warming for religion?
So yeah. People kill each other for dumb things. Religion. Money. Love. Lust. Name a thing and people have probably killed for it.
1 Paganism was the followed religion during slavery, those in power practiced it.
2 Catholicism is what drove the expansion into the new world.
3 Catholicism and lust for gold drove the conquistadors into the Amazon.
4 You have a point but we are not religious anymore and one might argue that capitalism is a form of religion.
5 Environmental deaths, really? Reaching much?
You know slavery still like, exists. Today. Right?
Catholicism did not have anything to do with expanding into the new world, it was for better trade routes.
You literally said the lust for gold was a reason for the conquistadors. I think Catholicism was an excuse to do what they did for money.
Arguing capitalism is a stretch.
And no, I don’t think deaths via pollution are a stretch at all. People are dying in droves because of pollution, from lung disease to water and food shortages to disasters caused by climate change, a thing gasoline companies knew would happen but wanted money. How many times has a company let people die because they want money?
It’s a secular murder.
Just because you’re mad at one type of religion doesn’t mean all religions are bad, anyone with a religion is bad, and literally every evil of the world must somehow be tied to religion.
Does climate change count?
That’s capitalism, Clyde - not religion. Unstick your head out of your arrse and stop confusing your own farts for reality, okay?
Hey clod, religion pre-dates capitalism by thousands of years, but go on telling me how my head is in my ass.
Aaaaaand?
He’s saying the dark ages were painful
And the ages before and after weren’t?
Im pretty sure feudalism is worse
Worse for whom?
For most of the population of a country using that system
Oh, I don’t know about that… I’d say that feudalist peasants would be rather terrified of our thoroughly unstable liberal boom-and-bust cycles.
And you conveniently forget that feudal peoples (and non-feudal peoples) all over the world had to be violently brutalised into accepting liberal economic realities… so there’s that.
Your first point I can agree with but your second point shows your ignorance.
Really, Clyde? Is the 300-hundred (and counting) years of mass-slaughter, mass-rape and mass-torture perpetrated by the west on the rest of the world “alt-history” to you now?
No surprises, I guess.
Honestly, I mostly see capitalism as a religion. It provides a narrative about the meaning of life. It provides rules that it’s followers should adhere to. It provides goals, restrictions, and social orders. It defines it’s own ethics, worldviews, texts, doctrines, and priorities.
Fair enough, I guess.