Frankly, I’m surprised the US isn’t on there.
BBC, why not include uk’s opinion? Is it because your daddy didn’t liked the result?
Presumably it’s because this is a list of countries where China is more popular, ordered by the margin.
Russia is absolutely cleaning house this decade. Daaaaamn
What myopic bullshit. China has been and still is a deep supporter of Russia’s war.
Sure, USA under Trump was majorly fucked up even in the first term, and now it’s even worse. And while Trump is still licking Putin’s boots, they are not actively supporting Russia.
They are supporting Israel instead… No one said these people had a positive view of their own government either.
Then out of an environmentalist point, USA is one of the worst of all states on earth, probably THE worst…
China acts at least smart, I already feel embarassed as European about what USA has become. China seems to act the smartest in regards of progress currently (i.e. massively electrifying shit…).
Ok, so a few points here. 1. China makes up their statistics, which are totally utter bullshit. They lie about GDP, COVID deaths, and pretty much everything else.
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I’m not sure what environmentalist view you’re looking at but China opened 45+ coal power plants in 2025 alone. The US hasn’t opened one since 2013, and even dip shit trump leading the pack the US has 2 planned in the future.
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China’s AQI is 999+ in most parts of the country. In comparison New York City averaging 103-110. So no, they’re pumping crazy shit in the air constantly.
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80% of the water in China isn’t drinkable/potable. 60% isn’t for for animals.
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China leads the world in rare earth minerals, and this may come as a surprise, but rare earth minerals aren’t actually rare. Other countries don’t extract them because it is so toxic and destroys the land. China has zero issue with this as long as they get paid, which is the Chinese mantra.
I can keep going if you’re like?
- Same can be said for anything the US government has reported, and especially any statement by the Trump administration. The US forced other countries to join a war based on falsified information, and Trump is continuing this trend. In contrast, countries in Europe have never had to join a war because of demands from China.
- China is literally the factory of the world. They have an enormous power hunger. Yes they invest in coal because they have plenty of that. But they are also leading in renewables. US invests in coal and is NOT leading, they are in fact falling behind most other developed countries.
- Anyone can Google and see that’s no longer a given. This Thursday the US tops the charts with the worst air quality levels: https://www.iqair.com/world-air-quality-ranking
- That 2015 figure is about shallow unfiltered groundwater, for which the US conveniently has no metrics. China is increasing water quality at an extremely rapid pace, while the US water quality doesn’t improve on average. There isn’t a huge gap anymore.
- Lucky for us, because literally all developed nations rely on China to do this dirty work. But it’s not that we aren’t responsible for the ecological footprint of our products if we let someone else dig up the minerals for us.
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At the very least they have a leader that acts like a grown man with a sense of normal behavior.
This has been happening every 4 years for the past 30 years. It will change once again once Trump is replaced by a Dem.
This also goes for Russia, Israel, China, or whatever other country. People put too much stock on perception trends, when in reality it means very little. Things like this change at the drop of a hat.
Americans may be misleading themselves if they think that all the damage Trump has done will suddenly be undone once he is gone. Most people outside the US see Trump as holding up a mirror to what America really is that was previously cloaked in some level of diplomacy so it wasn’t so readily shown to the world. Plus the US used to have the money to buy goodwill but Trump is doing his best to bankrupt the company (country) while lining his own pockets, the only skill in which he has prior demonstrated ability.
It will change once again once Trump is replaced by a Dem.
Rubio’s state department has been standing up fascist dictatorships in Latin America as quickly as he can.
I suspect any Dem who replaces him and isn’t fully in board with ethically cleansing indigenous people south of the border will have a difficult time.
Then you’ve got fascist governments in the Philippines, India, and Japan, all of whom have been very much onboard with Trump’s ultra-nationalism.
And European fascists from Reform UK to the AfD have been piling up election wins for years, in no small part thanks to American tech billionaire support.
Anyone who believes this all ends the day Trump flounders out of office is kidding themselves. We will, at best, be right back where we started on January 7th, 2021.
And yet it means nothing. When you look at glonal perception data of the US, it was favorable under Clinton, Obama, and Biden and unfavorable under Bush and Trump both times. Outside of the obvious partisan implications, the data shows that perception changes a lot and very quickly. It really doesn’t mean much outside of the present atmosphere.
Can only speak of my own country, but we certainly did nothing to permanently decouple from the US under Bush or the first Trump term. But we are now. I think you underestimate how much damage Trump has done to the US’ relations with the rest of the world
Trump has actually quipped about making Venezuela the “51st state”. They are committed to bringing back the era of banana dictatorships and quasicolonialism.
Europe: “They both suck!”
They both suck but currently the us suck a bit more. Is it because of them acting like the abusive partner they are and that side is finally revealed? Dislike with a side of betrayal.
The EU is slowly moving the US to the same category China was already in.
There is more loud animosity towards the US because they are more interegrated today because of the old trusts that are being broken.
You shun heathens but you burn heritics and all
China may be a dictatorship, but they actually put tax money into public projects. When they say they are going to do a project for the next X years it actually gets done. As a result, when cool new projects come up, the infrastructure is already there. It is one of the reasons why Chinese EVs are so good and so cheap.
Meanwhile, we have the US where the government is wholly noncommittal to public services that don’t extract money from their citizens. They frequently break contracts and agreements when they are no longer profitable or beneficial to the upper class. We have private militaries kidnapping and killing legal citizens just for existing.
It’s no wonder people view the US less favorably than China. Both are evil, but at least China doesn’t behave like a petulant child.
Chinese EVs are so cheap because of the massive direct subsidies they get from the Chinese government, not because of some infrastructure.
The subsidies for chinese citizens has been cut for years and phases out entirely in 2027.
There never was a subsidy for exports.
This narrative is just a way for non-competitive companies to demand protectionist measures so they don’t have to invest in better factories and can continue charging more for less value.
Just like almost every industy in the US. Agriculture - heavily subsidized. Fossil fuels - heavily subsidized. Medicine - heavily subsidized (even if the patients don’t see any of it). Defense contractors of every shade - heavily subsidized. Only difference is that the US subsidizes to help the billionnaires. China subsidizes to help the general populace.
They are cheap because of the infrastructure AND because of subsidies. But to be honest, European automotive companies also once started out with massive subsidies. Companies like Volkswagen were completely government sponsored in the beginning.
I’ll take a dictator that seems to care about the well-being of their country over a wannabe dictator that only cares about getting paid any day.
“I’ll take a dictator…”
This is a MAGA talking point and repeated by MAGA supporters.
No we won’t.
In my experience, the kind of person that will purity test a hypothetical is probably gonna join the dictator’s vanguard.
Americans scream and spit on Chinese democracy while they cling to electoral colleges and governor appointed senators and the fight to disenfranchise minority voters en mass.
I just don’t know how to take any of it seriously. China’s a dictatorship because it’s ruled by a single, seemingly insurmountable communist party. But Texas and Florida can elect Republicans to a bulletproof supermajority for 40 years and that’s just the Will Of The People.
A Congress with a 20% approval rating enjoys a Lockean Mandate, while a Parliament with 50-70% approval is a tyrannical regime of brutal oppression.
And don’t even get me started on prison population…
How are we even defining democracy anymore? It just seems like American Exceptionalism.
How are we even defining democracy anymore?
There are multiple organisations invested in rating democracies worldwide, the main one is from The Economist EIU ,(https://www.eiu.com/n/campaigns/democracy-index-2025/, there are numerous places where the raw data is published more accessible such as here: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/democracy-index-eiu).
I personally prefer the index made by Freedom House (https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world) because it includes what a regular citizen experiences:
For each country and territory, Freedom in the World analyzes the electoral process, political pluralism and participation, the functioning of the government, freedom of expression and of belief, associational and organizational rights, the rule of law, and personal autonomy and individual rights.
Their assessment of the US democracy:
EIU (2024): 7.85/10, “flawed democracy” Freedom in the world score (2025): 81/100
These scores obviously are not about other things that matter, like economic stability or access to healthcare.
Damn, you can’t even use China as the positive comparison here without some random tankie getting pissed I didn’t adequately glaze China.
you can’t even use China as the positive comparison here
tankie
Yeah, the comparison is positive, but also anyone who disagrees with you wants you murdered by a tank.
FFS, can you people take any level of criticism?
murdered by a tank.
Oh! All this time and I hadn’t clocked that tankie was referencing the Tiananmen Square massacre. That makes a lot of sense.
I thought it was something related to think-tanks or something, some kind of weird way of saying “brainiac” or having “big-brained ideas” in a derogatory manner.
All this time and I hadn’t clocked that tankie was referencing the Tiananmen Square massacre.
It’s not. It’s referencing the Hungarian Revolt of '56.
I thought it was something related to think-tanks or something
Hahaha.
Well, in my heart of hearts, this is who it’s really talking about.
Both governments suck, but the US’s currently does more. So I’d agree.
Both governments suck
Which policies have the Chinese bureaucrats failed to deliver for their civilian population?
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I want this on my shirt. Born to die, world is a fuck… -style
What the fuck don’t send this to USians, you’re gonna get them killed
Perception shifts faster than policy sometimes.
Wait a second - you mean people have an opinion about the country they hear the most about? And they have a negative opinion about the ones that have the most negative information presented about them? Ya don’t say?
I don’t think the presentation of information is the issue here…
One (China) is absolutely an authoritarian government, while the other (USA) is still nominally a democracy (though having its own issues with authoritarianism). While the US and Europe have been moving towards stripping the rights of privacy froms its people, all those methods have already been in place in China for over a decade.
Both also have marked histories, but the US is notably loud with its current troubles while China is keeping quiet. It’s primarily presentation
- This is about the perception of a country in other countries. Their internal governmental system is irrelevant for most people. They care about what affects them.
- The policies China implements internally rarely have very much negative consequences for the rest of the world. They have been providing the rest of the world with many products of increasing quality. That’s what people notice. A rare exception may be the power they exert over their possession of rare earth metals, but I doubt many people understand what that means. Meanwhile the US’s economy is intertwined with that of many other countries. The international role of the dollar and the hegemony of the US in general mean that the decisions that are made internally affect a lot of other countries. On top of that, people in other countries are reliant on US software and credit card systems that have become increasingly invasive in people’s lives, as well as American streaming services that have enshittified.
- The current administration has been actively stabbing their long-time allies in the back, calling them names, burning pacts once made in good faith, climate agreements, etc.
- But it’s not just the current administration. Here is a list of wars involving the USA vs. China in the 21st century. Note that the list for China in the 21 century doesn’t exist—they haven’t been fighting any wars. If a country is bombing you or your neighbour you might feel a little worse about said country.
- The wars the US causes and especially the shenanigans of this administration are really felt throughout the world. A price increase at the pump is a very tangible result of the mess the US is making of the world at the moment. Meanwhile China is biding their time, being much smarter with soft power. A lot of countries have increased their economical ties with China and are seeing very real progress in their countries, like a train track with new trains that wasn’t there 10 years ago.
Note, I don’t mean to say the regime in China is a particularly good one, but man are they causing less shit for the rest of the world. Some small skirmishes in the South China Sea really don’t make a dent compared to the shit the US is pulling.
- More subtle shit for the rest of the world. The US is just now trying to catch up to China in mass survlience and manipulation tech, while China has exporting it for years to get more regimes up to snuff.
Not saying the US hasn’t had large survelence systems, or propaganda, but the Great Firewall still mostly stands as a unique achievement for Chinese authoritarianism, and the US black bagging a major power player that wasn’t totally aligned with the regime would spark a crisis instead of a quite few months.
If I had a choice I’d choose the constant pervasive spy network and manipulation over being bombed, but that is preference on the flavor of evil to me, not on the degree.
Welk yes, but China has been less interested in the data of regular civilians outside of China. Google and the likes have been spying on us all for more than a decade now through the accounts we’ve willingly made with them.
Of course the Chinese are spying on regular people too, but it’s not so much their primary way of making profit as it is for Google.
And like I said: foreign people don’t really care what another country does internally . They care about what affects them: whether their food or their gas is more expensive, whether they can afford to go on vacation, and whether the world feels safe and stable or is a massive powder keg that’s about to blow.
Its the export of authoritarian tech that effects more countries imho. The slow constant vice of the belt and road too
Boiling pot vs powder keg
It is absolutely a factor here. If all you ever get is negative reporting then that dominates the discussion
If there’s a lot of negative to report, a lot of negative gets reported
But there is so much positive to report - why isn’t it being reported on?
this US citizen is very much anti US and more pro China than pro US.
For real
Well, what about pro-US countries? Curious abour those.
Sure, here’s the exhaustive list:
Israel?
israel is not a country, but they also prob see the US as bitches not a country they support.
Israel isn’t a country?
correct.
Are you going to explain that? Or is there some subtext we are supposed to understand?
what’s there to explain? the zionists who think israel needs to be a thing are actually living in Palestine. simple, really.
Just because the country exists because they are “bad guys” doesn’t meant it’s not a country. Otherwise most countries that were established by violence wouldn’t be a real country. That would mean I don’t live in a real country despite the fact I can get a legal passport where I live.
They have a government, can enforce law, and are recognized by other countries. Aka they’re a country.
What’s wrong with Nigeria and Kenya, can they read or speak? Do they get the news?
Do you know what “favourable” means?
