• fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Then out of an environmentalist point, USA is one of the worst of all states on earth, probably THE worst…

    China acts at least smart, I already feel embarassed as European about what USA has become. China seems to act the smartest in regards of progress currently (i.e. massively electrifying shit…).

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      5 hours ago

      Ok, so a few points here. 1. China makes up their statistics, which are totally utter bullshit. They lie about GDP, COVID deaths, and pretty much everything else.

      1. I’m not sure what environmentalist view you’re looking at but China opened 45+ coal power plants in 2025 alone. The US hasn’t opened one since 2013, and even dip shit trump leading the pack the US has 2 planned in the future.

      2. China’s AQI is 999+ in most parts of the country. In comparison New York City averaging 103-110. So no, they’re pumping crazy shit in the air constantly.

      3. 80% of the water in China isn’t drinkable/potable. 60% isn’t for for animals.

      4. China leads the world in rare earth minerals, and this may come as a surprise, but rare earth minerals aren’t actually rare. Other countries don’t extract them because it is so toxic and destroys the land. China has zero issue with this as long as they get paid, which is the Chinese mantra.

      I can keep going if you’re like?

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        1. Same can be said for anything the US government has reported, and especially any statement by the Trump administration. The US forced other countries to join a war based on falsified information, and Trump is continuing this trend. In contrast, countries in Europe have never had to join a war because of demands from China.
        2. China is literally the factory of the world. They have an enormous power hunger. Yes they invest in coal because they have plenty of that. But they are also leading in renewables. US invests in coal and is NOT leading, they are in fact falling behind most other developed countries.
        3. Anyone can Google and see that’s no longer a given. This Thursday the US tops the charts with the worst air quality levels: https://www.iqair.com/world-air-quality-ranking
        4. That 2015 figure is about shallow unfiltered groundwater, for which the US conveniently has no metrics. China is increasing water quality at an extremely rapid pace, while the US water quality doesn’t improve on average. There isn’t a huge gap anymore.
        5. Lucky for us, because literally all developed nations rely on China to do this dirty work. But it’s not that we aren’t responsible for the ecological footprint of our products if we let someone else dig up the minerals for us.