Flashbacks to programming a Siemens PLC. That was on a “portable” PG with a CRT screen.
Ich will das! 😍 Zurück 0;
you need to compile c with a c++ compiler to be able to define macros for keywords iirc. But I did do this once to translate c to my native language, Maltese. It was cursed
Grrman C might be fake, but German Excel isn’t.
I remember a bug where the PC at an electrical substation was in french, so ‘if’ had to be changed to ‘si’ in the excel sheet …
Localised Excel formulas makes me so angry, it’s hard to put it into words.
it’s hard to put it into words.
Just copy from Excel, then paste into Word. 🤷♂️
That’s the problem. It’s not called Word in other countries!
Word, yo!
Commas as a decimal separator be like: Guten Tag
And the commas between function arguments in formulas become Semicola instead
Bonjour!
Forget that the real evil is that the first character of Int or Ganz in this case is capitalized
German has a word for it: Substantivgroßschreibung
Quellcodeanglizismussubstastivbeispielersatzgroßschreibungsregel
You are missing the Neuzeil at the end of the Schnur.
I worked with one of the authors of the Brazilian SQL. It was exactly what it looks, every reserved word translated to Brazilian Portuguese.
Oh shit, I’d never get anything done, as I’d imagine my lovely friend’s accent reading this shit out.
Selecione * de tbl_minha-tabela onde nome não é nuloHahaha! I love it!That reminds me, I had to modify a program written in VB once. The guy who created it wrote every table, every column, every view in Portuguese, WITH ACCENTS! It works, we simply have to put everything between brackets, but it doesn’t add anything to clarity. It looks awful and seems pedantic.
Oh god. I still have nightmares about that time I had excel formulas in Portuguese, I refuse to think about SQL.
Don’t forget the keyboard shortcuts. Office products would change shortcuts according to the language, so it would be more mnemonic. Ctrl-F for find and Ctrl-B for bold would be reassigned to whatever initials that language had. Fun! /s
Man I’m glad Dutch keyboards are just US international. So all the shortcuts are just the same as the English version. So I never had to unlearn localized shortcuts.
Not even the right initials. Most of the actions’ names had the same few initials so they had to find synonyms to use the shortcut for. Search was Ctrl+L (from Locate). In other cases they just used whatever letter was next on the keyboard to the initial that was already in use.
Well, you can Code in a real German syntax: https://ddp.im/en/
DDP has the following data types: Zahl (long), Kommazahl (double), Buchstabe (char), Text (string), Wahrheitswert (bool) und Listen (list)
Gottimhimmel, that would drive me crazy, and I’m German.
The code screenshot is pretty nice though. Actual grammar in there, full sentences that “Goethe would be proud of”.
Why yes I always dreamed of writing code like a full on novel.
The code screenshot is pretty nice though. Actual grammar in there, full sentences that “Goethe would be proud of”.
The syntax and all these
Wennreminds me of Cucumber/Gherkin
Most fucked up thing here is
<type> <name> {I must be old because I remember that as being the standard form until Java popularized
<visibility> <static?> <type> <name> {I mean I’m not that old, but I was reading more C and C++ books and tutorials when I was a kid, because “ew Java”
Das ist K&R C, du Banause!
Ich verklage Brian Kernighan und Dennis Ritchie auf Schmerzensgeld.
I’m all in favor of
zuruckreplacingreturn, because that just sounds cooler. Pluszdoesn’t get enough use in my programs these days.*
zurückDo C compilers support non-ascii characters?
Do as most non-DACH countries do: Just use the regular letter instead of the Umlaut.
Example:
Über-Mensch -> Uber-MenschJust use the regular letter instead of the Umlaut
But that’s just wrong.
ühas a different meaning and pronunciation thanu.If umlauts aren’t available, the correct way to write umlauts is with an additional
e:zurueck.Über-Mensch -> Uber-Mensch
Please be aware that this term can be problematic, since it can be seen as a foundation for fascist ideas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Übermensch#Use_by_the_Nazis
This makes it horrible to read. An example that comes to mind is a Finnish athlete with the last name Määttä. If it was Maatta, it would be pronounced differently but still understandable if you knew the person. But it was translated into Maeaettae which is just horrible
Didnt have a better and fitting example
If you replace the ü in “Das Wetter ist schwül” (“the weather is humid”) with a u though, you get “the weather is gay”.
I often use z as a temp variable when i need something to compare to when creating new code but don’t want a separate window to the side or to experiment with something but don’t yet know what the result can or will be. I use z purely just because i know z is very very unlikely to have been used elsewhere, and if for some reason it has, then i just name it ‘zz’.
This is actually temporary by the way. It does not stay in my code. Once I’m done with it, i delete it.
sí has entered the chat
If you think German C is bad imagine Czech PHP.
Had to refactor an entire custom Magento plugin written in it.
I found a random PHP file online and recreated your trauma:
<?phpcz jmennýprostor Itb; třída OvladačUživatele { soukromá §větev; veřejná funkce akcePřihlašovacíhoFormuláře() { §poleParametrů = [ 'názevStránky' => 'Přihlašovací formulář', ]; §vzor = 'domov.html.větev'; §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů); vypiš §html; } veřejná funkce zpracujPřihlašovacíAkci(§uživatelskéJméno, §heslo) { když(§toto->platnéÚdajeSprávce(§uživatelskéJméno, §heslo)) { §_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'] = §uživatelskéJméno; §poleParametrů = [ 'názevStránky' => 'Vzorový formulář', ]; §vzor = 'domov.html.větev'; §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů); vypiš §html; } jinak { §poleParametrů = [ 'názevStránky' => 'Formulář chyby přihlašování', ]; §vzor = 'chybaPřihlášení.html.větev'; §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů); vypiš §html; } } soukromá funkce platnéÚdajeSprávce(§j, §h) { když('admin' == §j && 'admin' == §h){ vrať pravda; } jinak když('staff' == §j && 'staff' == §h){ vrať pravda; } jinak { vrať nepravda; } } veřejná funkce jePřihlášen() { když(jenastaveno(§_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'])){ vrať pravda; } jinak { vrať nepravda; } } veřejná funkce uživatelskéJménoZSezení() { když(jenastaveno(§_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'])){ vrať §_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno']; } jinak { vrať ''; } } }Is this what it looked like? (I also took the liberty of replacing
with§because of the Czech keyboard layout; FYI: yes we do have aavailable asAltGr+ůbut§is in the base layer; I would also replace the backtick/grève `, which is obtained by pressingAltGr+šonce or twice (OS-dependent), with°).Edit: BTW my first code was in the “Imagine” program, a Logo IDE with Czech localization (including syntax:
do,vz,vp,vl,puntík,smaž,domů,příkaz,konec,pišetc.). The documentation was piss-poor, I never learnt if it had arrays or code comments. The textbook I had didn’t even mention variables, I only learned about them in a short PDF guide I found online. Before that, I would use pixels on the canvas as variables.Had my 10yo self received a Python runtime instead, I wouldn’t be stimied by the “you don’t need to pass arguments if every variable is global” mindset I’m still struggling to overcome. I found programming challenges online and was able to solve most theoretical ones, but Imagine was too limited to implement all but the basic practical ones, not to mention that it ran way slower than Python would. I was convinced that the lack of speed was mostly the hardware’s fault and that I would need a low-level language like C++ to solve the 1000×1000 inputs in some puzzles. I got in touch with the challenge authors and they suggested Eclipse but I couldn’t get it to work. I was too overwhelmed by the English interface and documentation and barely knew what a compiler was. I learnt decent English soon after but the fear of IDEs stayed, and eventually I turned towards electronics instead.
Thanks now I’m having flashbacks
Wow, I just learnt from your comment history that you likely don’t even speak Czech. This must have been hell.
By the way, English not being my first language is one of the factors why I’m not a programmer, see the edit to the above comment.
Just needed a little bit of patience and a whole lotta Google Translate
Well, in PHP you cannot #define new words from some new language to mean basic language keywords.
There is something like this? 😂
#beinhalteMy German teacher: any usage of the verb 🦵-halten in your essay is a point off.
zurück 0;What’s wrong with beinhalten?
Overuse and lack of elegance, in her opinion.
We still loved her though.
Handhalten is more romantic.
The romantic version would be händchenhalten. Handhalten sounds efficiently German, but not romantic.
But that ruins the joke! You Germans and your utter and complete lack of a sense of humour, sheesh.
It doesn’t fit very well in this context, the idea behind “beinhalten” is that the subject “includes” the object (i.e. the object is part of the content of the subject), but the #include command in the C preprocessor isn’t about describing that kind of situation, it’s a command “I want to include one file in another”, a better verb in German for that is “einbinden”. (I realize this isn’t a very good explanation, but I’m a native speaker of German and can tell you that no one would use the verb “beinhalten” in this context.)
The previous commenter’s German teacher likely prefers “enthalten” instead of “beinhalten”, which has the same problem in this context though.
Maybe incorrect rebracketing? It’s supposed to be be-inhalten, not bein-halten. Otherwise maybe a writing style thing…
The concept of foreign languages in code confuses and frightens me
Why? Programming language isn’t a natural language. In fact, I think not knowing English makes it easier, since you cannot attach any preconceived notions, assumptions, or word order to keywords. I learned some Pascal, Visual Basic and whatever GameMaker used at the time without being fluent in English.
There’s also rost
Wow, that’s cursed.
But all programming language already are in a foreign language to most people.
Foreign? For some these languages are native. Foreign is relative.
(I’m just being pedantic, i understand that relatively to you - and me - this is foreign)













