• bearboiblake@pawb.social
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    4 days ago

    Sanctions are never used righteously, that was just propaganda to get you to swallow them. They have ALWAYS been used to benefit the ruling class and the foreign policy goals of the American Empire.

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    I don’t think scantions work.

    With as many participants as there are in the global economy it makes sense: the sanctioned country can easily change suppliers and not have to change policy.

    Prior to the war in Iran, the US had sanctions on Iranian goods, especially oil. Iran has been selling mostly to China. Crude oil is about 56% of Iran’s exports.

    The point is, Iran still sells crude oil and makes revenue.

    (I’m not defending Trump, he scrapped the Iran nuclear deal in 2018 and (re)imposed sanctions on Iran.)

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      I don’t think scantions work.

      They certainly never achieve the intended objective, that is, change the system and government to US compradors, but they do work greatly in causing horrible humanitary effects. That’s about US sanctions, who up till recently basically controlled global financial system, and also like to bomb, invade, sabotage and incite riots in sanctioned countries to make things worse. For sanctions like Canadian, they aren’t very impactful, more of a political statement.

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        5 days ago

        Wonder if Canada realised that they barely trade with Iran, if at all, and decided it would just be better to seem to appease their nearest neighbour without actually having done anything at all

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          Probably just that. Poland also did this during Trump first term, they organised very hostile conference about Iran which had basically zero points or actions beside US vassals loudly proclaiming their allegiance. Iran treated it seriously though and it basically completely ruined Polish-Iranian trade deals (which were not very significant but they did existed) and relation (which were traditionally good).

          Bonus points for first-class comedy though when the bumbling fool Pompeo gathered entire room of Polish PiS officials (usually antisemites) and illegally demanded Poland pays reparations for WW2 to some Jews in USA, which make them both enraged and realised they can’t do shit since they just at the same day loudly proclaimed their allegiance to USA (nothing real came out from this too).

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      It’s only quite recently that some countries have begun to start trading oil in yuan. It’s certainly not easy to circumvent the petrodollar system that’s been in place since WW2. For one thing, the US will start bombing you.

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    When we said that the rules based order was not coming back, we meant that we were personally going to bring it down by supporting wars of aggression.

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    Is Canada a significant net exporter of oil? If it is then this could make a lot of sense from a domestic perspective in a twist the knife on the global economy for profit kind of way.

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    Strange that I don’t see many Canadians pointing out Canada supporting US imperialism yet again.

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      Yes, people forget Canada can still diplomatically oppose the war and push for internationally backed de-escalation without condoning the Iranian regime.

      While I feel a lot of contempt and opposition to US imperialism, they’ve pulled the trigger and there’s no going back to how things were. Between expanding Iran-backed militias, international sanctions, and the conflicting goals on nuclear weapons, the status quo before the war was also becoming less tenable long term. And now there’s the question of how to stop this war without leaving a wounded and even more dangerous regime unchecked.

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      Canada and the US aren’t just allies, we’re tightly integrated militarily.

      It may look like two separate countries on the political stage, but behind the scenes we operate together. When Canadian personnel are already embedded in command structures in the region, it’s not realistic to expect Canada to fully denounce the conflict

      • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 days ago

        Oh we already know.

        The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy. We know you fuckwits love sharing war crimes together, but then position yourselves as “polite” with online propaganda.

        It’s only getting more evident to the international audience every passing day.

        Keep it up tho. The world needs to see through the artificial facade you put up. 👌

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          … What artificial facade? Canada has a history as a country of brutal soldiers. For us the Geneva Convention is more of a checklist. We’re very polite: Surrendering Germans got a bullet to the head as a thank you.

          We had such a bad reputation the government shut down the Canadian Airborne Regiment (Our equivalent of the Marines) and pivoted us into a peacekeeping role to change perceptions.

          We have upcoming trade renegotiations, and pissing off the orange turd before they start just isn’t in the cards. We’ll support international efforts in a way that doesn’t piss off our brother to the south.

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          It is though: We have about 150 currently in Canada. 69 members of the U.S. air force (Because NORAD), 36 from the navy, 29 from the army, 15 from the Marine Corps, four from the Coast Guard and three from Space Force.

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            It is though

            We do help them militarily, and in return, the US rhetorically does not consider Canada as a sovereign country. So really, there’s no good reason to keep up that alliance, aside from masochism.

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    Iran isn’t so much defending itself, as it is establishing consequences for the West by bombing everyone they can in the region (while still holding back to some extent).

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      Businesses aren’t neutral. German industry was decimated during WW2 because they were essential to Germany’s ability to conduct war. This is no different.

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      Business that are “involved in the procurement networks that produce and supply sophisticated technology supporting the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ (IRGC’s) weapons production and transfers”. In other words, businesses necessary for Iran to defend itself like any country.

      Add to that from the quick facts at the bottom: “designating Iran as a foreign state supporter of terrorism under the State Immunity Act; the Government of Canada reconfirmed this designation in December 2025”…,are they designating the US or Israel too? Because both have a proven track record.

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      Wtf does Canada expect them to do?

      Yield on everything and do as God Emperor Trump commands, just as Canada does.

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      The US has helped Iran develop new income sources like bribes for every ship

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              The fact that it only leads into Canada and the US? It’s not a passage that is used by other countries for exports or imports. Any ship in it has business with one or the other.

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                  Both of those were built and aren’t on a border of a country but fully inside one. Not that I agree how the Panama canal is handled or was built, mind you.

                  A better comparison would be the gilbraltar straight, which obviously no one owns.

                  To be clear, I would be doing the same if I was Iran but it is worrisome. Furthermore, Trump deserves what’s happening but not because of some hypocrisy linked to the St. Lawrence specifically.

                  The energy is right but the comparison isn’t imo, that’s all.