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Nah. I’ve definitely heard it from people who don’t care and people who care a lot. And also for being various types of not straight, for that matter.
I’m a critically white guy who grew up in white suburbs and remember Sesame Street teaching me as a kid to not do racism. I was entirely on board with the whole America is a plurality thing, and it took me a while to figure out that most of my society is totally not going to play along.
In the aughts, my flatmate was Taíno/Puerto-Rican and we had a lot of conversations about systemic racism in the US. But my awareness of US racism really got going after the killing of Michael Brown in 2014 and the Ferguson unrest, during which there were independent press on the ground streaming video directly to the internet (that is, not being filtered by news agencies), and the brutal fuckery that was being pulled by the police. Also the worst trigger discipline I’d ever seen in my life.
It turns out that police, nationwide, really hate black people. More so than other non-whites, poor people, LGBT+ and protestors. (However, I am told, they hate native Americans even worse.)
After Ferguson, news agencies, for the first time, started tracking officer-involved homicide. See FBI was supposed to be tracking whenever a law enforcement officer (of any department) killed someone, and reporting their findings every year to BJS. It was a congressional order from the 1970s, and the Bureau just said nah. Until Ferguson in 2014, volunteer organizations watched for obituaries and news for when a police officer offed someone, those trackers didn’t get them all. We still don’t.
In 2015, officer-involved violence killed about four people a day, and that’s a guess. Precinct coroners routinely cover up for their brethren when a death can be interpreted as something else. The high-end estimation is about 75% of such deaths fall through the cracks, undetected and unreported.
Of course, blacks are disproportionately represented in officer-involved slayings. Of note, Philando Castile was pulled over at least forty-nine times in the thirteen years leading up to his execution by law enforcement in 2016.
Much of the shit ICE is doing now is not new. It’s just much more visible now. But there’s been precedent for a long time. Heck the DEA is essentially a paramilitary force to harass black neighborhoods.
And that was all before Trump got elected and he collectively gave Americans permission to be openly racist again. Now it’s all cranked up to eleven.
Stephen Miller really wants to dispose of all the non-whites. That’s what the ICE project really is about. (He also wants to put disabled people into institutions. That how the face-eating leopards come for my face in particular.)
The white Christian nationalists want to strip rights away from women and make them household appliances again. They also want to chase LGBT+ and non-Christians back in the closet. They’re also wary of Christians who don’t agree with their version of scripture.
Ranty Addendum: And as Corey Doctorow points out, the AI investment-buildout boom is largely fueled by a fantasy by the ownership class to just plumb get rid of workers, period, and replace us all with robots, occupation by occupation.
Peter Thiel and company already have plans for fancy highly developed automated cities where rich people can live in (alleged) paradise. Think Opportinity from Borderlands 2 or Rapture from Bioshock. They also have apocalypse bunkers where they can hide when things go south. (Those who don’t get killed off by their security contingent will instead go mad the way everyone did during the COVID-19 lockdown and sequester)
The ultra-wealthy (the 0.01% who look down on the 0.1%) don’t care where we migrate to, except they are looking to own all the land. While racism is a factor and distracts common folk from the class struggle, in the end it really is about class.
PS: I commented in the Ask Lemmy post on YouTube creators about Ashly B who does short form videos discussing black history in America. Stories about slavery, institutional racism and hate violence can get pretty graphic.
Even as a white guy, I hear it plainly.
How would someone who actually doesn’t care about race express they don’t care about race?
There’s an important distinction between not caring about race in the sense that you treat all people you encounter with equal consideration, and not caring about race in the sense that you disregard all racially based socio-economic concerns. A person flippantly expressing a lack of caring reeks of the latter.
I hate racism and I stand with people of colour
Wouldn’t you stand with all people and not just people of colour?
it’s the same issue as the “black lives matter” / “all lives matter” distinction. On the surface, sure, “all lives matter” sounds more appealing because all lives do matter. But the point is that most people support white people, it’s the people of colour that you need to voice your support for, because they’re the ones being targeted with constant discrimination and racism.
I think back to the post about liking pancakes not meaning hating waffles. It sounds ridiculous but it’s very easy to fall into that mindset, especially in scenarios like this. “I stand with people of colour” doesn’t mean “I don’t stand with white people”, it just means “people of colour need my support more than white people do right now”.
If that sounds weird to you still, and you’d still rather say “I support everyone” that’s totally fair, but if you’re going to do that you need to be aware of the cultural meaning given to those kinds of phrases beyond what the literal words mean, as the type of people who say that sort of thing are usually saying it to delegitimize messages of support for marginalized groups, and so by saying it yourself you may end up being associated with those people as well.
Black Lives Matter is a bit like Save The Whales. It should be a given that you don’t want dolphins to be killed…
Is it not a given you don’t want the whales killed or do you have to call them out specifically?
Sadly, yes. Some whale populations were dangerously close to collapse partly/mainly (it’s debatable) due to human actions. A lot of other maritime species weren’t thriving but with whales it was dangerously different.
For the record we did also have “dolphin friendly tuna” so perhaps my analogy needs some work…
In the late 20th century, whaling drove some species of whale into endangered status, and some nations continued to poach whales even though there was international law against it.
According to Wikipedia whale hunting is still an business and a controversy.
I didn’t say I “just” stand with people of colour, did I? Now, considering how many people at worst don’t consider people of colour to be people, or at best, just have a white-centric bias and don’t think of people of colour very often when they hear “all people”, the specific callout is very necessary. I specifically stand with people of colour, in addition to all the people who you would presumably expect Me to stand with due to being part of society.
I stand with people of colour
Wouldn’t you stand with all people and not just people of colour?
Naw, because if you say you stand with white people, that same person will say you are racist.
The difference is that white people practically never face difficulties that are related to the color of their skin, there would therefore not be any reason to “stand with white people” except one motivated by racism.
Just as the other guy argues, nobody said anything about only standing with white people, you can assume one stands for people of all races with the statement.
Everybody’s talkin’ something very shocking
Just to keep on blockin’ what they’re feelin’ inside
But listen to me brother, you just keep on walkin’
'Cause you and me and sister ain’t got nothing to hide
Scatman, fat man, black and white and brown man
Tell me 'bout the color of your soul
If part of your solution isn’t ending the pollution
Then I don’t wanna hear your stories told
I wanna welcome you to Scatman’s WorldI like Scatman’s version
I wanna be a human being, not a human doing
“I don’t care if you’re liberal, centrist, or a nazi” — someone still using twitter in 2026
Twitter approved ideologies:
- liberal ✅
- centrist ✅
- nazi ✅
- “libertarian” ✅
- neocon ✅
- communist ❌
- anarchist ❌
- leftist ❌
- libertarian ❌
- c*sgender ❌
cussgender
“What’s between your legs?” “None of your fucking business”
I appreciate the “libertarian” and libertarian being presented here. A distinction most people aren’t aware enough to make.
Centrist*
*Actually far right
Ehhh… I’d say more functionally far-right than actually, especially when the ruling class is far right. They’re not far-right themselves, and calling them that WILL make them entrench.
If you say it’s fine to entrench people against you, I’d also call you an idiot.
They don’t care because while they are different, they all eventually lead to the same outcome :3
libs be maldn ur rep🤣
Yoooo that’s interesting haha
Neat site
There was a better one, that did Meta/Facebook like analytics, but I’ve long since lost the 🔗
I know my wife was in it, and celebrated the libs & fascists that blocked her.
You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don’t care if they’re black, white, purple or green"… Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they’re suffocating - then help’em.
- Mitch Hedberg
I would care if you’re purple, would be ready to do the Heimlich
Alex jones every single time he talks about people even if it makes less sense to include race
You don’t care if I’m wearing blackface, gangrenous, or so oxygen deprived I’ve turned purple? You sound like an asshole.
I’d absolutely try and get you a doctor if I saw you were green. I might try heimlick or CPR or something if you were purple. Black is okay if like most of you is black but if its paint I have questions.
I responded to the op heinously, perhaps, but i hope you stick around in the fediverse. If you don’t that is not my problem. That’s how that shit works lol.
Been here on and off for a while.
Looks narrowly at this post. FINE! I will ask my dad! gets annihilated
