• DagwoodIII@piefed.socialBanned from community
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    18 hours ago

    Someone once said that raising the drinking age to 21 didn’t stop 18 year olds from getting booze, but it did stop a lot of 14 year olds from getting booze.

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      I really don’t know anybody from America who didn’t drink before 21. I’m still not a fan of alcohol outside of social events, didn’t go to parties often in the first place, and was generally a good little honors student who followed the rules. However, even I drank several times before it was legal.

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        10 hours ago

        18 year olds can pass for 21 with a fake ID but a 14 year old definitely couldn’t

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          It’s more rather preventing seniors at high school buying it for freshmen at high school. Whereas most 21YO+'s friends are adults.

          • DagwoodIII@piefed.socialBanned from community
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            10 hours ago

            I got 61 upvotes, which means that plenty of people understood what I was saying.

            So either you were making a joke, and now you’re all salty that I joked back, or you actually had no idea, which means you really do need to get out more.

            But don’t act like I made some kind of cryptic pronouncement only the illuminati can decipher.

              • DagwoodIII@piefed.socialBanned from community
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                10 hours ago

                Sure thing,

                I’ll stop making little jokes like telling people to go outside so you can feel like you’re accomplishing something.

                Personally, I think telling someone to go outside is much milder than calling them a twat, but I wasn’t appointed the guardian of the interwebs

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      Which is an awful idea, gladly I never had any trouble getting alcohol at 12-14, and yeah, by 22 I had fucked around so much and partied so hard that was already retiring from getting drunk… isn’t it better to be irresponsible idiots when you indeed have no responsibilities, and give a good use to all those puberty hormones?

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        Alcohol can have an impact on the brain’s development, which stops at around 32 years old anyway. So it is less harmful (edit : for the brain development) the older you get. Also, the earlier someone starts drinking, the higher their chances are of developing an addiction.

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        I would like to believe all the lessons I learned doing wreckless could have been learned elsehow, but also it tamed me out by the time I was 14. I could tell a lot of the kids around me at that age were acting out as a result of their newfound freedom, the kinda freedom and lack of supervision I had had for ten years at that point. I had my fill already and became a relatively calm and subdued teen. But only because I had learned my lessons through pain.

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        Are you me? Same trajectory, really.
        I did pick up hard drinking again after a several-year-hiatus, though. Then several years of that made me never touch hard liquor again.

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        Yes, because 14 year olds are so responsible otherwise.

        A drunk 14 year old on a bike is probably in more danger than a drunk 21 year old in a car.

        And don’t get me started on what trouble a drunk 14 year old girl can get into.

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          A drunk 21 year old in a car could wipe out a family. A drunk 14 year old on a bike is probably at worst only going to kill themselves.

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            I wrote twice that the drunk kid was going to hurt themselves.

            How you got that I approve adults driving drunk is a mystery to me, one I prefer not to waste time solving.

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              Let me help you out. It was this one:

              A drunk 14 year old on a bike is probably in more danger than a drunk 21 year old in a car.

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          No way a drunk 14 year old on a bike is worse than a drunk anyone in a car.

          14 year olds should have more oversight from their parents though too. Better to learn from a parent or guardian than a frat bro or whatever.

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            Read what I wrote.

            More of a danger to themselves. Most people, even drunks, put on their seatbelts. That means if there’s an accident, even at high speed, the driver is protected by restraints and airbags.

            A kid on a bike doesn’t have that.

            If there’s a collision between a bike and a car, which vehicle do you want to be in?

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              I read what you wrote but was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Just to be clear, you’re saying that you’d prefer drunk drivers in cars versus bikes because you’re more concerned about the drunk driver’s safety than people they might run into/over?

              My speculation is that lowering the drinking age should result in fewer deaths overall for this very reason. I don’t want drunk drivers to die either but if I had to choose I’d prefer the drunk drivers to die over the person that they hit. I also reject your premise that crashing into something with your bike is more dangerous than crashing into something with a car, seatbelt or not. Speed is a pretty big factor and while drunk biking is surely dangerous it’s a lot less likely to crash at higher speeds.

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                You are hilarious!

                Speed is a pretty big factor and while drunk biking is surely dangerous it’s a lot less likely to crash at higher speeds.

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              I’m not as concerned about the safety of the drunk as I am about anyone else who may be near them while operating their chosen vehicle.

              With that in mind a bike is better.

              • DagwoodIII@piefed.socialBanned from community
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                15 hours ago

                Apples and oranges.

                I specifically said that a drunken 14 year old is more at risk of hurting themselves than a drunk adult wearing a safety belt. I never said that drunk driving was ‘safe’

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    Once had a nondescript volume (sips sips sips) of Jack Daniels from a flask before a night out. Getting that drunk just isn’t fun, especially when I’m moving about. Had a hangover so bad my cheeks were bruised from the swelling.

    I’m sticking to weed instead.

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      Getting drunk can be fun, but for me weed is usually way more enjoyable. Forst that can happen is, that you still wake up stoned.

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      Alcohol let’s us live a little while we shave years off our lives.

      It’s bad, but it’s also kind of an understandable reaction to what’s going on in the world today. The environment is being destroyed, the planet is becoming more and more uninhabitable for humans (because of the greed of human companies and countries). And the worst human behavior imaginable is being lauded as not just permissable, but recommended.

      A lot of us won’t accept that… So we just live in this mess hating it all.

      People shouldn’t drink excessively, but I get it.