• Surp@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    If you don’t wanna watch the video it seems it’s all about this https://unhook.app/

    “Unhook YouTube Watch YouTube free of distractions. Block suggestion feeds, comments, and more.”

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    He really went far from the Misogynist, racist piece of shit that made rape jokes, and who’s humor consisted of saying pussy every second line.

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      I don’t think he’s as dumb as he seems in some videos. His persona and mannerisms are very much a pan-Scandinavian thing. To me it’s a throwback to the early 00’s, when we filled our brains with plenty of Jackass, Blink 182 and Eric Cartman.

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        His Filthy Frank/Pink Guy aping years are definitely evident of that lol, beastmaster64 swimming into the sea to catch a Pokemon made for some funny moments.

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      I don’t think there’s any irony in people trying to make money with their work. And I’d much much MUCH rather have them insert multiple sponsors in a video that I can just skip over than worry about ads and their constant tracking.

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        The irony is making boatloads of money and then pulling up the ladder behind him while he can make his money anyhow, because he’s already got a critical base under him.

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    Having such a big influencer as Pewds shout out selfhosting, ad blocking and general privacy improvements is a huge win, no matter what your opinion is of him.

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      It is true, I think so too. I never really watched any of his content, his racist and toxic comments in the past make it hard to recommend it to anyone, but his two or three tech videos were decent for a normie targeting normies. In total, he is bug enough, that I think its a net profit for the cause.

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        his racist and toxic comments in the past make it hard to recommend it to anyone

        He mended his ways, and didn’t do it again. What else do you want him to do, to atone for his sins?

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      What concerns me is the implicit association people will make between him and FOSS, and anything they believe about one will carry to the other.

      I have to assume there are already people who hear “Linux” and think “ugh, I wouldn’t touch that with a 10ft pole because I don’t want anything to do with Pewdiepie”. Similarly, if he says something dumb next week, and half his audience abandons him, they’ll likely have a negative outlook on FOSS going forward.

      Either way, I don’t believe FOSS’ staying power comes from meteoric rises following a fad, it comes from a natural immunity to enshittification over time. On the scale of a few of decades, FOSS seems like it’s struggling against proprietary solutions. But just like the general concept of political democracy, I think on the scale of centuries it will become the clear, time-tested, least-bad option. But I digress.

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        it comes from a natural immunity to enshittification over time.

        ugh, tell me that if this bullshit with systemd and age verification isn’t true.

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          It’s already solved: FOSS means I can always fork/build my own package that does what I want. That’s why I mean it’s immune.

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        Eh, don’t worry about it. If people are seeking out Linux for their own valid reasons, they’ll take what they need and leave what they don’t.

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      Her helped usher in this new enshittification. He was the Trojan horse. First one to reach a million

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          You think not having total control of an organization means he’s free of blame. Would you say that your MAGA uncle doesn’t control Trump so isn’t responsible for his actions.

          Pewdiepie is literally called an influencer. He warped what many young people belief they can become today and that belief is what ushered in a world of influencers chasing the all mighty dollar. That has given all these corporations fuel to create content and that content is stealing our data, eliminating data scarcity and used to influence politics.

          He’s not the cause of it but he was an inflection point and could have went in a different direction to push kids to reject this new paradigm. Instead he was the face of it.

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            You think not having total control of an organization means he’s free of blame

            I don’t, that’s something you made up about me in your head. I think that YouTube’s business execs would always lead it to where we are now.

            He warped what many young people belief they can become today and that belief is what ushered in a world of influencers chasing the all mighty dollar

            He made gameplay videos. I think that’s the most benign form of “influencing” there can be. I think there are much more damaging channels that had way more sway in shaping this new generation.

            Again, I’m not saying he’s a saint but I do think he’s ultimately insignificant when looking at the causes of and reasoning behind youtube’s enshittification. And I don’t think he would ever go a different direction, just doesn’t seem like the type.

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              He laid the groundwork for those shitty influencer. He had the attention of young people who looked up to him. The minute they saw he could make millions by becoming the walking embodiment of a Nascar fender he set the attitudes and aspirations of a generation.

              Would YouTube continue without him? Yes of course.

              Could he have pushed back and created helped influence a generation of kids to reject the selling out of themselves to this influencer culture? Absolutely.

              There were a few influencers in those early days that could have changed things or at least maintained the zeitgeist that we had then. Nobody did. That money was too good. Everything after he made that first million would change how the internet worked.

              He was the inflection point. He could have impacted everything going forward. He could have told kids that these companies were stealing their data. That they were soliciting gamers to use as Trojan horses for what would eventually make everything worse.

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                To call him the inflection point, as if this wasn’t a more complex change emerging over time, is ridiculous. You are clearly speaking from an outside perspective. He has never come close to flashing his wealth or showing a ‘lifestyle’, anything that has came definitively after his peak. The influencer issue was also far more complex. Instagram was the central breeding ground for those types, and twitter was still conversationally relevant.

                Even if he was the inflection point, what now? You expect someone at the center of things to realize their unique position, and then realize the most morally correct thing (to you) to do about it? Patently ridiculous, hindsight is 20/20 when it comes to larger cultural movements like influencers.

                Calling pewdiepie an influencer shows how little you understand that sphere. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

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      A win for who? Sounds like he will deter some people and attract others based on whether they think checks notes anti-Semitism is a deal breaker. Jesus Christ this is pathetic.

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        Antisemitism, based on that one clip where he deliberately did something controversial to check boundaries of freelancers? Perhaps it wasn’t the brightest idea he’s ever had to upload this but framing him as such is a bit much I think. Like with his bridge-incident, I don’t think anyone would seriously call him racist for that.

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          Yeah like how many years ago was that? Lets just believe people can’t better themselves and hold things against them forever. What an awful reality that would be

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            Friend… in a now deleted instagram post he was caught with a “international jewish conspiracy” book in the background.

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              So ok he owns a book about some conspiracy theory, I didn’t know that. He read a lot and even talked about books some years ago. Who knows how he got the book, if he even read it, if he agrees with it’s content. Maybe he didn’t and still doesn’t want to get rid of it for some reason or another. If he would actively talk about it or so it would be a different story.

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              Damn which one is this? The one in the middle? If so thats quite recent bc I follow his content and his pc build is pretty new. Crazy conspiracy theory nutjob content in there. Its a pretty huge red flag since it aligns with the patterns in his edgy phase (during which I didn’t actively follow him). Makes me sad to think I might have had a lot better image of him as a person in my head as what he really is. Thank you for informing me. I mean technically he could just be curious in obscene conspiracy theorists. Like people can read religious text while being atheist or read Mein Kampf as a historic artifact. This book does seem more fringe tho. As long as he is not promoting this kind of belief. Makes me think if all this together makes a different light of him tho. Maybe he owns the book from back then and didn’t throw it out. But he moved from the Uk to Japan so I still wonder why he would’ve kept it.

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                he fled to japan until all the drama blew over the years, most people forgot about him and latched on to the enxt big influencer, mr beast and the likes.

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                I wouldn’t assume that he supports any of the book content just from having it on the bookshelf. You are not a nazi for having Mein Kampf on the bookshelf (worst example I can think of and it would be uncomfortable at most). If all you have on bookshelf is nazi/conspiracy propaganda though then it’s another topic

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                  He’s read and reviewed all sorts of books, but as far as I know the only questionable one of those was the first Jordan Peterson thing (which he did criticize as well), so I don’t know how a single book he’s never talked about would flag him as anything. Sure, if he actively tried to preach what’s written in it or encourage people to read that stuff, but I agree that just owning some book is a pretty poor basis for accusations.

                  He has the platform, so if he’s a raging racist or antisemitist, why isn’t he using that for preaching those then?

            • How is having 1 book on ur bookshelf enough to condemned a man. I have mein Kampf on my bookshelf sitting right next the communists manifesto and 1984. Does that make me a communist or a Nazi? How can u hope to defeat an ideology for which you do not understand?

              “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.” - Sun Tzu (The Art of War)

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              that is not a “jewish” conspiracy book. iv read it and yes "enslavement is a strong word for it. but it does illuminate a few patterns on the growth of economy and abuses within them over history.

              and also if it carried no weight then why is it widely banned.

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                The author is a god damn holocaust denier. Propoganda doesn’t always outright state it’s goals my friend.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Goodson

                He is the embodiment of “jews control the banks and the world” argument.

                EDIT: Verbatim in the fucking wikipedia:

                “Despite his career, Goodson was also an active commentator with regards to the problems of the central banking system, writing the book A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind, published by blackhouse publishing limited. In this book, the author narrates a brief history of finance and central banking in the Western world, from the Roman Republic to the 2008 financial crisis and maintains the existence of an international jewish conspiracy to control nations through banking, led mainly by the rothschild family from the 19th century onward.”

                You wanna correct your statement on it not being about that now?

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          He’s too dumb to be intentionally racist but he’s a great spoke person for your cause. 🙄

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              You have two masters and one is problematic. It’s nice that your master said kind things about the other, but you still have two masters.

              Edit: I don’t follow the guy, I only know that this is a good thing only IF y’all convince others PewDiePie is a good guy actually.

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                Bro are you schizophrenic? What are you talking about, I have no “masters”. And I don’t say that pewdiepie is a “good guy”, I just said that I wouldn’t judge him based on such minor things.

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                  It’s an analogy that illustrates that you are doing his PR work in order to serve an unrelated cause. Is that clear enough to understand or do you want to send people with butterfly nets after me?

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            “Too dumb to be intentionally racist”? I want to understand your comment more as I feel most people who ‘choose’ to be racist are pretty stupid. I can only imagine exceptional cases like politicians or leader figures who use fear and hate to get more power.

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              I think you make a better point than I did. I am responding to someone looking at a racist act and insisting it wasn’t racist but stupid.

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      And having a youtube video on lemmy frontpage is a huge ad for google and a missed opportunity for an open alternative to become more popular

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        Dunno about “huge ad” exactly… There arent that many of us here lol.

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          Not huge maybe but for what i care a big smack in the face to this open source and decentralized platform.

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      I’m always open to somebody’s redemption arc, even if I dislike them. The great thing about people is that we are capable of growth, even if not all of us always grow in the right direction, we always can.

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    I love everything he has been doing recently. He is a master of story telling and goes surprisingly far into solving technology challenges, while keeping it fun and real. What an amazing transformation really

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      He did already have a background vocationally in this space so it wasn’t a transformation from nothing. Great stuff nonetheless!

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    I dont really understand, is it possible to block JUST the shorts on Youtube? Any idea where i can find more about that?

    I dont want to leave youtube just yet, but occasionally the shorts are melting my brain.

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    I totally missed him being a Youtube jackoff and only watched my first Pewdiepie video last year when he was degoogling. Because I was doing that as well. Then saw his Linux video and that made me realise Linux was for me.

    So while people might think he’s some sort of douche, to me he’s just fucking brilliant! So funny and smart, and really wants to help people escape from the awful internet we have now, where everything is sucking up your data. He gives great advice on how to do that and does it in such a funny way.

    People keep mentioning his redemption arc lol, but i’ve just seen the great stuff so for me, abs love his stuff! Highly recommended!

    Best thing for Linux, having such a huge Youtuber praising it so much!

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      Well he’s 36 now. Think he’s realized that it’d be cringe to behave like a teenager for much longer and his original fans are all adults now anyway, so he’s decided to aim his new videos at them rather than getting new teenage fans. Put it this way, he had 100 million subscribers 7 years ago, he has 110 million now. One has to assume his average subscriber age has risen a lot in recent years.

      Honestly great that this is how it’s gone. I find him way more relatable now than when his fame was at peak.

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        I like that you like him now… But i don’t think the main reason he’s become cool now is due to him… not wanting to be cringe lol.

        Obv yeah the audience n he grew but it sorta takes agency away from him by knowing its all bullshit haha. Like yes, he’s a huge YouTube star but he’s also now huge advocate of privacy, security and mental health.

        He’s not just doing this cos he doesnt wanna be cringe.

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          Honestly, cringe was an oversimplification in the first place on my behalf. My take is that he’s realized that he can either keep doing what he did for over a decade (put out cringe content, which would be even more cringe as he reaches 40 soon), or he can actually do something useful with the reach he has, and be someone his son can actually be proud of. And he went with the latter, over the easy money of the former.

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            Okay yeah, thats a more accurate picture.

            I honestly think im glad i missed his cringe douche phase. I actually hate that whole influencer youtube bullshit.

            But he really is not like those twats now lol

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    Wasn’t his n*zi prank and all his racist shit who began the youtube downhill ?

    I genuine asking, i’m not from u.s. and never watched a single video from him in all my life, i only knew him from have the youtube channel with most suscribers and the clip on PUBG bridge.

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            I don’t understand the mechanism. I could see a benefit for an advertiser if there was self censorship for criticising that advertiser, but what is the connection between that and self censorship for the word nazi? Or is it another mechanism?

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              The general atmosphere is “better” meaning the advertiser sees his “content” amongst more friendly surroundings

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                So there is less advertising in Australia and the UK than the US because they say the word cunt more?

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                  The major content websites deprioritise Australian and UK content outside of their respective countries.

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              Advertisers don’t want to be viewed next to or adjacent to “problematic” content. Hence no swearing in the first 5 or so minutes in a YouTube video (right after add have played), self censoring words like cunt and suicide so algorithms don’t deprioritise you (again, because platforms make money from ads, so they won’t promote videos that aren’t as friendly).

              It’s all in the service to appease advertisers, and they require platforms to roll out the red carpet wherever they tread.

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      Why the fuck are you censoring Nazi. You can say fucking Nazi online. You can say fuck if you want to.

      Why the FUCK are you bowing to the corpo overlords.

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      yea thats why he fled to JAPAN for like 5+years, and then he sorta of trying to come back through his vlogs, im guessing his family vlog channel wasnt enough so he pivoted to this in tech(looking for the next grift), he definitely misses that fame and money. yea he fled to japan avoid his consequences of being anti-semitic, if you fled to another country where the drama doesnt reach you, it means you dint learn your lesson.

      its the same as the asian influencers i used to follow that fled to FACEBOOK to avoid controversy(mysogyny and MAGAT-Y) on reddit, where they can control the narrative better.

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      He’s not from the US either. But yeah, he’s an unapologetic lunatic. Nice for him to be on the right side of something with his large audience though.

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        Not sure why is he lunatic, but he definitely apologised for and acknowledged what he’s done multiple times

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    pewdiepie is one of the modern celebraties that it kinda annoys me that I recognize the name. I feel like if I had not been a nerd and somehow I knew who captain kirk was even though I did not like sci fi. if I was not a nerd. I certainly like sci fi and know who captain kirk is.

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        I mean now yeah but like in the 80’s and even 90’s not as much. wrath of con and 4 did relatively well and with blockbuster likely more people saw it. Despite that sci fi was really niche back then. How about like knowing who captain picard was in 1995.