• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The question misses some history. Of all global powers only the USSR has been erased since the advent of democracy. And it can be argued that the disappearance of the Soviets is their lack of democracy. Having the state reside with the People has an incredible sustaining power. For example, France has survived as a nation through several governments. Germany and Italy have been through some wild times and they still exist as nations.

    Trump and MAGA might bring about a revolution but America will continue.

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      1 day ago

      I am confused by what you are saying. There have been several global powers that have come and gone since the 6th century, the Ottoman Empire for instance.

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        15 hours ago

        Yet Turkiye remains. I am saying the government is not the nation. That means that no matter what happens, America will remain.

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            6 hours ago

            The USSR was so much more than just Russia. That legacy is part of why Russia is invading Ukraine. Again.

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              5 hours ago

              …and the Ottoman Empire was more than just Turkey. At one point it spanned from the borders of Italy all the way around the Mediterranean to modern day Algeria.

              By your logic then America won’t survive because like the Soviet Union it’s just a federal system of constituent parts that are highly unlikely to participate in a mass government together again.

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            7 hours ago

            … Is that not the name of the country? Every source I can find online seems to indicate that’s the preferred nomenclature now. Or does this have some problematic connotation that google isn’t showing me?

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              It’s actually supposed to be Türkiye, due to Turkey’s request to be called like that in English by international entities: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61671913

              I neither know why ordinary people would call it like that, since Turkey is still practically the usual name (more recognisable, easier to write and pronounce), nor why calling it Türkiye anyway would be suspicious.

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                2 hours ago

                I just assumed they couldn’t type the u with umlauts but wanted to use the current name; and I just really want to know why that other guy thinks that confers “questionable motives”.