• Pika@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    I agree with 1,2 and 3 but I don’t really understand the remaining 2,

    I’ve never across the 6 systems I’ve had, had windows brick an install to the point it no longer can restore/recover itself without me doing something really wrong (usually something stupid on the Linux partition). it’s way of handling updates and upgrades is actually something I miss on my current system, with windows if it failed the update it rolled itself back, on Debian I gotta roll a snapshot,which isn’t hard but takes longer and is manual.

    I’ve also never had an issue with the UI not looking uniform, or at least anything worse than anything not Apple.

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    I am lookimg at the comments and laughing. I have a low end pc, with nvidia and intel. Ya all behave as if linux was some peak of programming…and heck, maybe it is, dunno.

    But installing Windows 10 vs CachyOS/Mint/Nobara took similiar time. Speed is the same, explorers too. On Cachy and Mint, compatibility was also the same (Nobara did not like my hardware). All in all, both Linux and Windows were fast and reliable (except Nobara, again, hardware issues).

    Yet ya all grab edge cases and try to make it appear as it’s normal xD And this applies to both linux and windows folk, altho I do admit there a lot more linux folk here. But both sides grasp at edge case problems and pretend it’s norm lol xD

    From noob PoV, Cachy = Mint = Windows 10 usability wise. I’d switch to Cachy if not for the fact only Windows can squeeze last drops of my hardware juice T-T (I love Plasma desktop, even if wallet pisses me off)

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    6 hours ago

    #2 gave it away because you’d have to royally screw something up in Arch to get KDE to lag like that lol.

    It might be minimalist but it’s not unperformant out of box.

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      The only time i had issues with KDE when i was using a PC with 384 MB RAM (plasma 4)

      I wouldnt blame that on kde

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    I’m sitting here reading these comments as the low-end Dell laptop I just picked up for software testing is booting up and updating Windows. For logistic reasons, had to pick one up today, so had the pleasure of dealing with Best Buy sales staff 🙄

    From powering it up, it’s been 1.5 hours with updates and multiple restarts. Half of it was spent showing a progress indicator with a carousel slideshow of all the great AI tools I have no interest in using. Then it insisted on signing in with a Microsoft cloud account.

    It’s been eons since I actually ran a fresh copy of Windows. Amazed people still put up with all this nonsense.

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      Seriously, dealing with Windows OOBE is like walking through a used car lot.

      “Decline offer” “Decline offer” “Not right now” <hey, we need to update! See you in 30 minutes!> “Remind me in three days” “Turn off cloud backup” “Yes, I’m really sure” “Decline offer” “Share minimum telemetry” (oh, you thought you could turn that off? Lol. Lmao, even)

      I don’t know how anyone finds that mess easier than linux.

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        It’s not easier than Windows, it’s the devil you know.

        Sure it’s slow, but you know how slow. It does updates at the wrong time, but you know it will turn on again eventually. It sends all your data to Microsoft, but no-one has come to your door to harass you because what’s in your data.

        Linux is some obscure thing that would take time and effort to learn, and you’re tired from work and just want to use a computer without thinking about it.

        Things might be different if Windows wasn’t the default/only option when buying a new laptop.

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      The best buy sales staff are interesting because they practically make you beg for the thing you already had your mind made up about when you walked in the store.

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    I love this copypasta, I love my linux, I hate my windows. But let’s be honest with ourselves for a second and completely ignore the punchline of this meme.

    Those ARE valid criticisms of linux distros. Arch is not for casuals so you should be aware what you’re getting into before stepping in, however your everyday-consumer-facing distros like Mint are still far from providing a fully comfortable day to day experience.

    Again, I love my Mint, I’m never going back to windows, I’m a technical person and I had to use AI to help me run my nonograms game without it injecting cocaine into my CPU.

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    Haha, definitely had me. I’m still new to linux and so far bazzite kde has been great. Very few issues, small learning curve. Hard to mess anything up too bad.

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    I’m a basic Linux Mint/ZorinOS guy–I sometimes switch between the two–and even I know that it’s dumb to install Arch unless you’re REALLY good with computers.

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    Ngl file explorers on Linux suck some massive ass unless you use like Krusader or ranger or terminal based stuff. Dolphin, Caja, nemo, Thunar, Nautilus, all of them are so fucking convoluted that it feels like they are consciously designed to do the things you least expect and in the most roundabout way at all times.

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    Man that subreddit is a trip. Really funny to actively hate FOSS on ideological grounds because you just love corporations and markets so much.

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        It’s precisely the reason why many other licenses exists, and that are used for those who want to offer OSS as a service. It is still open, but the service is sold as a guarantee.

        But never mind that. Because when you look at stuff like Microslop, Apple, and pretty much any other commercial proprietary software developer. They do so the same way. Games are not sold, they are licensed, with no guarantees of functionality either, just to put one example. It’s a mar of software as an industry, not exclusive to FOSS and definitely not created by the ideological underpinnings of FOSS.

        Like, MS offers guarantees of quality and offer liability on their ToS for corporate contracts, but not for the version people can acquire for their home PC. Even then, the liabilities are very limited and cautiously defined. Essentially, unless MS is doing IT directly for your company, you are on your fucking own. And then, support channels for corporate service are very limited on what they do and do not offer. The average Joe buying a Mac or any other PC with Windows essentially get the same “software is provided ‘as is’ and we don’t care if it doesn’t work." It’s not associated to FOSS exclusively.

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      8 hours ago

      “love corporations”

      How about I despise communism and how it only works when workers are forced to work at gunpoint. Or, I haven’t seen any legit gripes against Microsoft.

      Politically, I’m centrist, because both pure extremes fail. -China isn’t 100% communist.

      Linux takes the position of ‘competition’ for Windows while being an eternal loser. They squash other great projects by taking their ideas and making them work with then objectively shitty (for desktop) kernel.

      Linux is a ‘best case scenario’ for Windows. (Yeah, you’re actually helping Microsoft by being an evangelist).

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        I’m sceptical this is genuine… it sounds like cope to me, but it’s interesting… Anyway, I appreciate my experience isn’t universal. So what Linux alternatives do you mean, like BSD and stuff?

        I try to keep an open mind about people preferring the Microsoft stack, but from the first time I used a terminal on Linux I was sold. I could never go back.

        I still do support for people who use Windows PCs, so I’ve got to see how it’s changed over the years. Personally I don’t know how anyone puts up with it.

        It seems like Windows keeps getting worse as Linux keeps getting better… like… do you enjoy using Windows 11? Does it feel good to you?

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        Communism literally never had a chance to evolve as a system because USA systematically fucked it over and fought it at every step, in the process committing horrific crimes against humanity along the way. Would you like some historical examples of what capitalism has done to humanity and democracy worldwide for centuries or are you just more of a “see the thing with communism is… It just doesn’t work!” kind of guy?

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      There’s one here on Lemmy too. I got banned this morning for sharing this post lol.

      Here’s a post from it defending Telemetry of all things.

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        Man that madthumbs guy is really trying to make that a thing and it’s kind of sad and lonely that he’s off by himself pretending he has a community…

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        Please please please don’t brigade/harass that community!

        I love it! It’s like watching flat earthers. I NEED this popcorn.

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          There he is! Evangelism, sure. Idk man you got some weird shit going on, but you do you. 👍

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            If you point out any where I’m wrong, I will correct it. So far, none of the LiGNUxers are. AFAICS they work for Microsoft. It’s like when I was into conspiracy theories and wondered why Alex Jones wasn’t easily recognized for the controlled opposition, he is.

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            Imagine correcting me on anything. Everyone criticizing the community has the opportunity and NEVER does. Maybe because I’m right and not deceiving people and turning them into hardened Microsoft fans.

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        Yeah I was just about to edit my comment to mention that. Like bro why are you here it’s built on the same ethos you hate in linux.

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          Then why do people pretend that being ‘downvoted to hell’ means anything here? Why would they point and say ‘echo chamber’ hypocritically?

          The truth is that Reddit is shady AF with their shadow bans, control of information, inconsistent rule following, etc. I’m actually trying to get more users here.

          I tried on Gab. -What happens when I correct someone on Gab about Linux? -They upvote and thank me for it! A community there for “Linux sucks” served no purpose.

          edit: I’m also against religion (worse cult) and didn’t want to support the owner’s evangelism. -But the site is ran pretty decent, and it’s not bad when curated (another shady thing about Reddit is the limitation on blocking users).

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            I’ve seen a few of your posts on Linuxsucks@lemmy.world. I can appreciate a minority view and you don’t strike me as hostile with other users, but many of the points you made frankly make little sense to me. Some even stike me as deranged or at least misinformed. I hope you are doing this out of passion or get some other form of genuine joy out of it. I’d hate for Linux to make you anyone feel miserable.

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            So do you like make all these linux hate memes yourself, or are you sourcing them from various linux hate communities?

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    I just got banned from a community called Linux sucks this morning 😂 what a weird community! Like if you don’t like Linux just don’t use it? People are so strange

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        That was my thought exactly like just an entire community of Microsoft and Apple shills? The content is complete as too 😂 like super topical Austin Powers memes and shit…