I hope they really commit to this. Keep gimp as an option for the obstinate among us, but make wlbr the default. Gimp is, even to people who don’t recognize it as a slur, an informal and rude word and it makes it hard for people who already don’t care about open source to not just dismiss it out of hand when they hear that name.
Do we have any actual documentation of anybody who might be called a ‘gimp’ actually being offended by the name? Or is this just more performant bullshit?
Every time one of these changes is made it creates confusion for thousands or millions of people. And it creates a reload on other software packages and dependencies to change the name.
It is no different than software changing and interface for the sake of changing it. You are forcing your users to relearn something they already know which has a real cost in time and potentially in dollars.
Gimp does not refer to people with movement disabilities. It stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program. You want to make things less offensive, double down on what the acronym stands for rather than changing it.
It took me reading the comments here to get that it’s pronounced Wilbur. I don’t get why it needs to be an acronym
It’s not open source unless the package name is a scabby dumpster fire.
As in the pig from Charlotte’s Web?
No it’s the name of the mascot
My right leg is injured and I’m old so I limp and am old and in the way. I don’t give a damn if you call me gimp, a gimp, old or old gimp.
Geez, grow up already ya bunch cry babies. It’s just a friggin name for an app. If you’re insulted, hurt by that you really need to get a life.
An OLD adage: “sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me”
Ok boomer
Great app though.
Tech in general has a huge boomer-humor problem in that all those old fucks that wrote the original code stuffed it full of puns, in-jokes, and idioms that are only relevant today in retirement homes in Ohio.
And I don’t mean this is annoying or funny, but as a legitimate problem. It’s bad enough that you have to learn English to code, you also are disadvantaged for not sharing the culture with retirement age white dudes from America.
It wouldn’t be so bad if it was good boomer humor, but remember, these are the guys who think “Linux Is Not uniX” is funny.
I disagree. Humor is humor, if it’s not funny to you, move on. I am not a boomer or American, but I like those silly little jokes that make a utilitarian and relatively dry industry somewhat entertaining.
At first I didn’t like the idea of a name change. But WLBR is perfect (because I’m a wilbur fan).
WLBR is a radio station in PA.
I propose: WHARGRBL
from bad to worse
from guatemala to guatepeor
I will be locking this issue to avoid non-core developers spamming with the same walls of texts about the project name.
Bruno is a very wise man.
I dunno. A wise man would propose a better name.
How does this have downvotes?
A man can be wise and still propose a name that some people don’t like. The reason why this man is wise is, he knows what would happen and is wise enough to limit / lock the thread before it happens.
There are names that ‘some people don’t like.’ There are also terrible names. WLBR is both.
Your opinion is one of many. For some the name does not matter, for others GIMP is worse than WLBR. I don’t care what the name is. To me the person Bruno was wise to lock it, because he knew non contributor would spam with their opinion and with history. That is the mark of a wise man. This is my point, not how many people like or dislike the new name. That’s not the point I am making.
GIMP being worse doesn’t mean WLBR isn’t bad.
Which is irrelevant to the point I am making.
Gnuie
GNU Image Editor
Why the hell is everyone focused on the damn name? Stick to adobe if you don’t like the name. I need good functionality not a name change.
It’s preventing adoption, crankypants
No it doesn’t… Unless you are talking about adoption by first graders. The name is not what prevents adoption.
I mean I get where he’s coming from, it shouldn’t, just use the damn program and don’t focus so hard on the name which in all honesty does not matter where functionality does.
But also people complain on this one because A) Sex is icky and everyone is a Puritan and B) it has been used as a slur in the past I guess. It’s almost like naming an RNG tool “Free Auto Generator” or something.
Personally idgaf.
Marketing is unfortunately not about what you personally gaf about, its about mass appeal, what most people gaf about.
Users are fucking stupid, and will throw a fit over the most banal shit, for no explicable reason beyond ‘thing x gives me the ick’.
Tell a relative normie you use Fedora, they’ll mock you as a reddit dork mall ninja neckbeard.
Yeah but what I think you’re missing here is that “that’s stupid.” We can still call those people stupid for being stupid, when they complain about stupid things. As we’re all doing currently. The difference is he thinks users should care about important things instead, you’ve given up on that, and I still don’t actually give a shit either way.
(Tbf also I do agree with him users should often get gud, and I say this as a user, I’m only a “dev” if writing personal bash scripts using copied stack overflow for loops I don’t fully understand counts. I do also agree with you in that they’re probably not likely to get gud, but I still think it would be good if they did.)
I’m basically just trying to say that the vast majority of users are very, very stupid, compared to a power user or actual dev.
Just think of everyone who bought beanie babies, funko pops, stanley cups, now I guess its ‘Nee-Dough’ or something.
Thats much closer to ‘the average user’ than you or me.
Hell those people use an iPhone and nothing else lmao.
What the ever living fuck is a Nee-dough lmao.
Hell those people use an iPhone and nothing else lmao.
Extremely correct, and why I will never stop laughing at Mac users.
Nee-Do
ugh:
Its… basically a squishy cube, presumably made of something resembling silicone.
Tiktok has been going apeshit over it the last few days, people getting into fights at stores to buy these things.
They should publish an add-on and call it “Mister Ed”.
Why not just Wilber? Just like the mascot.
Perhaps ‘WiLBeR’ would be a compromise?
Its … basically following what I’m going to call ‘GLaDOS case’ rules.
???
Just sort of seems closer to the kind of silly spellings of robot names in a fair deal of movies and such?
GNU Wilber
The Linux community can’t let an opportunity for an acronym to go to waste. Even more so for a backronym.
Could have had the recursive acronym KINGIMP (KINGIMP Is Not GIMP) smdh
If GIMP is renamed to WLBR, wouldn’t you also have to rename GTK into WTK?
