You are going to fuck this up. Don’t come crawling back to me when you lose all your data since the dawn of time and you completely brick this goddamn computer. This is your one and only warning.
I never ever had to run my file manager as root.
Same here, but I can understand why someone might want to. For many people, even those that are comfortable on the command line, a GUI is a more comfortable experience. And, I have (rarely) needed to do some filesystem management as not my primary user account.
I installed something that I got very disappointed, and wanted to get rid of it
the script itself tried to rm something in a directory but failed, sudo dolphin didn’t work, so I found out how to delete stuff from… I think /bin or /usr/local/bin ?
That needed me to run as admin/root so I did it. I deleted 1 file, the leftover artifact of the thing I didn’t want installed. I then stopped using dolphin as admin so that I wouldn’t break everything forever.
I then stopped using dolphin
Let me stop you right there altogether!
I’m getting used to it; I customised it to my liking and it even has a terminal built in. what do you recommend instead?
also, what do you recommend that works like VSCode for writing shit into that I never save and leave open forever, and has a search functionality on all open files that can work on any programming language I want (through compiler/interpreter and colour scheme plugins)?
You can use vscode on linux
I know I can, but I want to learn about alternatives and grow.
I’m trying to learn vim so I have neovim with neovim. With this you can do a lot more stuff. Have a lot more functionality, and it’s super easy to set up
Uhh does Codium not work for you? It’s not Vim but it’s something
Vscodium.
Or one of the many variants of ol’ Sublimetext and Atom (Sublime is paid for, Atom has been abandoned, but there are successors)
I’ll check out some atom successors, thanks! Any specific ones you like?
Pulsar edit was the one I tried.
Let me stop you right there altogether!
Let me stop you right there!
It’s nice to have a GUI for those things sometimes rather than a command line for everything. If you’re doing things right, your daily login shouldn’t have access to modify system settings or read sensitive logs. But troubleshooting requires that often and ls, vim, cat, tail, etc., can become cumbersome compared to a GUI file manager and proper GUI text editor like Kate or Gedit.
anyone else find this just so patronizing and smug?
no because I’ve worked office IT and people that have jobs I can see are really complicated and easily use software with a serious learning curve are still that fucking dumb.
[x] Do not warn me about these risks again
It’s right tho…
Even sudo says that: “With great power comes great responsibility.”
With great power comes great electricity bill.
pssh, it also says “this incident will be reported” when I get my password wrong.
huh.
when i enter my passwd incorrectly,
sudodoes not want to report incidents. is there a confjg option i missed?I think that message is only on some distros. I have seen it before but I can’t remember when, it’s been a while.
It does get reported, we know what you did
If I want to look at files in a directory I use ls and thats it
IMO an application written with a graphical toolkit and connected to a graphical server like X or Wayland shouldn’t be run as root, as these millions of lines of code that the program may use through libraries is a very large potential attack vector.
This should be done through the terminal if you value security.
You aren’t wrong, but really what are the odds the version of zenmap I got from official repos is going to be an issue? I like pretty pictures to go with my networking tools, it’s not like I leave them open after
It’s true! Dolphin breaks constantly, don’t give it a gun!
Dolphin breaks constantly, don’t give it a gun!
🤔
https://youtu.be/HvnqU-1uDUU?t=16
Are you afraid of this being the outcome?
Seems about three times wordier than necessary but ok
That’s the dolph.
How times have changed. If you have used Windows 98, you were always the administrator. Your five years old brother could actually go around deleting random system files.
https://tenor.com/en-CA/view/computer-old-man-my-computer-delete-my-computer-delete-gif-12348422
You can still delete system files on Windows but you need double secret admin rights.
they should just say here be dragons
This is KDE, there are always dragons
“beyond repair” my ass, this is Linux
I guess they meant “beyond repair if you don’t have access to a live boot USB or the means to create one”. Gotta remember who this warning is meant for. For those kind of users, “beyond repair” might technically be true.
exactly lol.
“wtf is a ‘boot/efi’ directory, seems stupid, bye bye!”
Maybe its also a ship of theseus type situation. If you have to copy /etc/ from somewhere else, is it still the same installation?
In modern Linux and assuming you did no pre-filtering or post-processing, no. machine-id systemd is a thing, fstabs commonly use device UUIDs now snd so forth with various subsystems. A laptop GRUB config commonly has the resume UUID set (sleep/hibernation stuff), a server typically has network configs tied to the hardware IDs, and on and on…
rolls up sleeves Not if I gave anything to say about it! Watch a master at work missing boot folder missing rescue disk missing OS backups
I feel like there is probably some software stuff you could do to permanently fuck the hardware, such as running a resistor at full voltage for a sustained period of time when its only meant to see bursts. Still not truly beyond repair, but you could make it very difficult.
In Ubuntu you used to be able to delete the UEFI firmware from the motherboard.
rm -rf /in UEFI system, no more return.Laughs in NixOS (while still spending the next few days going insane trying to figure out what isn’t in config qq)
testdiskentered the chat. (Kind of a challenge though but still)THANK GOD we have this failsafe now:
rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on '/' rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafeLinus Sebastian: “Why do I hear boss music?”
Efi spec states it must be safe to delete all variables. It’s only motherboards not adhering to the spec that are affected, effectively faulty hardware.
If you do this on a mb from that era chances are nothing will happen, and if something does happen chances are it is recoverable. You’d have to have some truly bad luck on your choice of mb to have it be permanently bricked by that.
With this
character’sfile’s death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore asaved gamebackup to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created.Would jury-rigging Wraithguard be booting a live USB and trying to fix the system yourself?
The emotional damage on first use would make sense in that context.
this is why I moved everyone in my family to atomic fedora. This is almost entirely not a thinng there. To be fair while all of them regularly fucked up windows, only my mom ever fucked up regular linux distros.
Iirc before dolphin would just refuse to run as root, I guess this is an improvement
Yep, they used to. SUSE actually shipped a second version (or maybe just a shortcut with some startup-option) of Dolphin to provide “Dolphin as Root”. I think this was inspired by said approach
Windows user: “Whatever”, and keeps clicking around.
Mac and Linux users do this too. If they didn’t then systems administration wouldn’t be a career path.
As a systems administrator, I’ll not worry about users taking over my job as long as Citrix exists.
I pray for the day Shitrix stops existing
They probably don’t even read what the message has to say. When I’ve helped some family members with their computer I’ve seen something important pop up and they just closed it immediately. I asked what did that message say and they said “I don’t know I just closed it.” :/
That’s usage for a non tech literate user
They will force every block out of the way of what they want to do, and if it stops working, they call someone.
With modern windows error messages being absolutely useless “something went wrong :/” tier messages I can’t even blame them that much anymore.
Linus Sebastian will ignore all text and type do as I say
I knew I shouldn’t rely on that guy for sex tips.
