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Try to install Fedora 43 everything goes perfectly installation finished without any problems. Restart and bam I’m in my bios. Restart thinking it’a fluke, bam back to bios. Try again with a different setup USB bam bios… Ask around try what people are saying bam back to bios… This happened to me on old MSI laptop from 2015 and the new Asus from 2024… I’m beginning to think Fedora is allergic to me.
It’s probably a bootloader issue. Either grub got misconfigured, or uegi/msdos shenanigans.
Tried almost everything about it. Nothing worked. I spend a good amount of time to solve it. Fun fact Nobara was also doing the same bios trick. I asked around their discord as well and they couldn’t help me either.
This sounds very odd. I have tinkered with countless of systems (since 15+ years), I never had an unresolved issue with installing a distro. What is usually the issue? It installs fine by doesn’t boot? Do you make it till the grub menu?
Yes it’s odd and people whom I talked to told me they also hear about it first time. I download the iso verify put it on the USB, boot into USB setup comes no problems partition or other wise no error, no messages. Everything install normally. There is no grub nothing, restart the laptop and boot directly into bios.
It sounds like bios shenanigans, secure boot or Legacy mode enabled or so. If grub doesn’t show up, I would try to go into bios, and override the boot choice to see it would work. Disable legacy and make sure the compatibility. But indeed, sounds very niche.
That’s a weird-un. I moved to Fedora specifically because I wanted a no-nonsense distro, and for the last 7 years it’s delivered on various desk- and laptops, knock-on-wood.
Yeah it’s very weird, but that’s my luck. Weird problems finds me. I’m happy with my cachyOS setup so, can’t complain much.
This was my exact experience with Manjaro.
Me: Oh and Mint, could you also add my old printer that I can’t get to work on any other OS I’ve tried?
Mint: Sure thing.
Mint: It’s already set up
me: hey mint, suspend automatically.
mint: no.
me: suspend manually then.
mint: no.
me: shutdown
mint: no.
…
sudo shutdown nowsudo shutdown now
No.
sudo su - && sync && sync && sync && init 0
For your case…
Alt + SysRq + O
My cat’s favorite key combo
I find that to be the most convenient and also the quickest way.
Ha. On Windows I had this ancient Ethernet Canon IP printer. Windows hated it, even with the supplied Canon drivers and network Utility. It always needed messing with every time to get it to show up as a printer on the network.
When I moved to OpenSUSE I went into YAST2 printer discovery. It found the printer right away, and suggested a model, and asked if I wanted to install the GutenPrint driver for it. Yes please. And do you want to announce this printer to others on your network (via CUPS) Yes. Done. Worked 100% with no Canon utilities.
Been using Fedora on several laptops and desktops, and haven’t had issues with wifi. Or with anything else for that matter. For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
The first bug I’ve seen was recently. Apparently an update broke the ‘shutdown and update’ function in Fedora Workstation. So now when you press it, nothing happens. Then when you try shutting down, the PC will shut down without updating. It’ll update and shutdown upon next boot. Can confirm Fedora KDE is unaffected though.
For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
Apparently an update broke the ‘shutdown and update’ function in Fedora Workstation.
Hmmmmmmm
And Kinonite by extension. I updated and restarted because I like fresh kernels.
Don’t judge me, it’s my kink OK. In my sad, pathetic little white bread life in the middle of nowhere.
I remember this sort of stuff a long time ago. There were wifi drivers that were either linux, but closed source, or horror of horrors having to resort to ndiswrapper…
Of course, the Ubuntu derivatives made this easy enough by just including it, but Fedora was much more purist about open source and so wouldn’t even tell you about rpm-fusion, let alone enable proprietary drivers for basic network access.
Now Fedora has edged a bit more practical and proactively let’s users know about how to add proprietary stuff and the wifi industry takes Linux seriously, if not for desktop use then for all the embedded use cases they would be left out of without good Linux support. Fedora is still a bit far on the ‘purist’ side still (try to play a lot of media using dnf provided software, it will tend to break), but not as hard as it used to be)
This juxtaposition.
unrelated, but what on green earth happened in the inbox?
sometimes lemmy doesn’t mark messages you’ve read and replied to as read, so voyager continues to show as red. the real question isn’t “do i have the notification number” it’s “has the notification number changed”
for me, inbox zero will remain 105 until i decide to empty the whole thing
OP is the femboy in the picture
They’ll never see your question
I had a bug on boost where if a mod removes a comment before I read it, inbox shows an unread message/reply, but it’s not there
I wonder where RHEL would fall in that scale?
probably around the Fedora level, they’re fairly equivalent.
The REAL question is, where does Hanna Montana OS fall on the scale?
as a debian user, i can confirm :)
damn, my socks have been shrinking
Leaving aside Arch and Nix for the moment… imagine rating Ubuntu over Mint. The depravity of the human mind know no limits.
I know, I’m a huge fan of Mint, but only the Debian edition as Canonical keeps going in a direction I will not follow happily. It isn’t just that snap sucks in my opinion, its that they decided to replace apt-installed packages with snaps and it feels like a slippery slope that could lead to issues.
I don’t think this is a rating, but a diagram showing how tall the socks of the users of each distro are
Damn, I need to buy longer socks.
You really do not. You’re all good.
From my personal experience, ubuntu has been way easier (more of “it just works”) than linux mint. What’s the reason behind people preferring and recommending mint? Is it only the UI?
Gnome is a terrible UI, but no, it’s recommended because it’s been recommended since the 2000s…it’s just momentum.
Marginally better UI means nothing to me if the distro can’t handle basic features like audio through HDMI, therefore I’ll choose pretty much any distro over mint.
Since when does Facebook have a distro?
i always think that when i see it too. I hate that the logos are so similar
That’s Fedora
Since when did they change the logo from a fedora to… this bullshit?
my wifi in mint works perfectly. getting the screen to rotate in tablet mode is another story.
Never had an issue with that, are you perhaps using an Nvidia gpu?
yep. I’ve used the open drivers and the Nvidia drivers. Nvidia drivers seem to work better most of the time but the screen rotation almost never works.
Weirdly, I never had an issue with screen rotation. I always keep my two side monitors in portrait mode. I found it would usually be very minor issue (usually color or compositing related), but every once in a while a new driver would just make the system unbootable and I would get to play the “boot from a thumb drive and play detective game”. If I wanted to do that, I’d play Myst or some shit :)
Perfect example of Linux never having the same functionality on different systems somehow lol.
Sad, but true. In this case, Nvidia gave me enough rare, but significant, issues that I am back on the AMD train for the foreseeable future. Hence why I asked.
Yeah I’m trying out Bazzite with a 4070 and its a bit rough, lots of minor issues I’m spending too much time trying to fix.
Or, you know… change the sound volume to anything between 0 or 100%.
Am I the only MF that prefers Fedora over the other distros?
If Arch didn’t exist, I’d probably be a Fedora user
Nope, there are dozens of us. Dozens!
I’ve been using Fedora for a long time because it’s actually up to date and tends to have the best of what the open source community has to offer, while still having some opinionated defaults to make things run smoothly.
Never had a problem with WIFI drivers. NVIDIA on Wayland however… (not Fedora’s fault the proprietary drivers are garbage, its done what it can by at least making them easy to install)
Nope. I bounced through about 5 distros before settling on Fedora. I’ve been on a little over a year and no real complains from me.
linus torvalds does too
And his attitude toward distros is that he wants one he can completely ignore
I tried basically every distro on my laptop and fedora worked all hardware 100% out of the box + printer + fingerprint reader + all day battery life
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
I wish my fingerprint scanner worked D:
Honestly, the only two problems I have had at all are fingerprint scanner (like, lowest priority for me), and the battery continues to drain quickly even when I close the laptop or put it in sleep mode or whatever it’s called
Ah I’m sorry to hear that all I can suggest is trying to look up what your specific hardware is and see if there are any solutions on archwiki or something
I did make sure to get a thinkpad because I heard they have excellent Linux support so it is possible your hardware just doesn’t have a proper solution yet 🤷♀️
But I am not a coder so I don’t really know how to do anything but google and try
Unless there is an update and you have to wait for a couple of months to get all the extensions back
And then you just go to extension.gnome.com and tell to run the extensions anyway by ignoring the GNOME version
Don’t have much experience but I run extensions designed for 45 on 49 without any problem
Unfortunately for me GNOME without extensions it’s unusable and I don’t have the patience to stay 3-4 versions behind to ensure compatibility
I didn’t know that. I’ll check it our asap, thx!!!
Linux being boring is a good thing. I want my OS to be boring. I use Mint, BTW
The enterprise-adjacent distros are pretty good for that, I’ve found
e.g. RedHat→Fedora or Suse→OpenSuse
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
Is this a workflow thing? I was looking at Fedora last week and I’m interested to hear what you like about it.
I’m on Cinnamon and made everything look like OSX, but it seemed like gnome would have a learning curve. And as much as KDE looks like Windows NT, something a touch more modern does seem nice.
Lol KDE looks like windows NT? Uh… No.
Wobbly windows is best thing ever by the way.
KDE looks like whatever you want.
Can kde still do the cube natively? I loved the cube
Gnome extensions can look pretty much exactly like kde or better depending on your taste, kde is easier to customize and more intuitive. I like that gnome is extension based with each extension being something you pick, many having their own customization and settings.
Some extensions I like: Arcmenu: start menu like windows, kde, etc. lots of layout options, replaces the hot corner big icon search menu thing
Dash to dock: use on handheld, perfect touchscreen menu customizable or (use one at a time) Dash to panel: use on desktop, even more customizable, basically gives you a panel since gnome by default has the hot corner android like app menu (which I also use mostly on the handheld, love the hot corner for moving stuff around)
Windows thumbnails (pip any window, monitor downloads or chats)
I use a lot more but forget the names, nothing really breaks if you toggle use incompatible addons or whatever it’s called. You can also edit the addon and change the version since that is what the devs do 90% of the time to update it.
I used to use KDE but so many small visual inconsistencies and oddities would annoy me that I was definitely already feeling like trying something else. Also I really like fingerprint login which kde had trouble with.
Switched to gnome just to try and once I setup my extensions it just felt right. (Extension manager downloaded from regular App Store)
Fedora has a great gnome implementation that is preconfigured much better than any other distro I tried. Fractional scaling was available without configuration and gnome’s online account login + fingerprint login also worked out of the box.
Everything just works but my thinkpad is also linux certified which could explain why everything is so easy. Still, other distros required more gnome configuration work and I’d have random problems with sleep mode, Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
Also, it brings me a little personal peace of mind knowing the distro is supported by fedora and red hat. That is serious institutional support and I think is just a good thing for Linux generally but also could explain why fedora has an edge to me
It’s hilarious, and sad, that the same issues I dealt with nearly 20 years ago, are still the same issues.
I think its because ultimately, most linux users either are using linux professionally, and therefore only care about the professional goals they’ve been assigned to completing, or they tend to be rather insufferable (the type to tell new users to enter sudo -rf --no-preserve-root or pretend that the average user both does not need any powerful features, but is also too lazy and stupid to use powerful features, but should still switch to linux to be berated for some reason).
That combines with the biggest thing: That there isn’t the money to go into developing things for linux that there is for mac or windows because the people aren’t there, and the people arent there because linux is basically for snobbish elitists, the fringe of society or professionals, AND has all the problems of that catch 22 in the first place, which further concentrates the worst people being the ambassadors for linux, like the real, felt ambassadors, like what someone actually runs into when trying to switch.
I do think Valve is doing a pretty heavy lift right now, and I am very glad they picked KDE, a DE that focuses on open ended pragmatism.
But don’t you DARE say on Lemmy that Linux isn’t ready for everyone to use…
But don’t you DARE say on Lemmy that Linux isn’t ready for everyone to use…
If we’re talking about “everyone” as in “generic people , who spend either office job time on their computer, and about 1 hour of pleasure time doing non specific hobby stuff” due to adaptation of more wifi drivers etc (even though this is the point of the meme), since everyone’s doing all their shit on web interfaces anyway, yeah, it’s everyone ready.
My fucking father in law is on a chromebook , my wife has been on ubuntu mate for years. I’m running debian with minimal issues (stupid overheating).
But don’t worry, 2025 is the year of the Linux desktop
Let me get this straight, you want to suspend AND resume?
If you were going to resume anyways then why bother suspending in the first place eh?
Computers have a personality and preference of distro based on their hardware
I had this issue with Debian once…fedora just worked great for me…except the nvidia card! Can’t run anything with the GPU…steam does not run with it…OBS crashes…It makes me wonder about LMDE…
“btw can you please install the latest nvidia drivers?”
“latest?”
switches back to Fedora
I’m still kinda surprised to hear that people are still having trouble with Nvidia drivers. I would have thought that Nvidia would have decided to improve that because of the AI boom. I wonder why they continue being so bad at this 🤔
Have 2 Monitors with different screen resolutions. It crashes more often than windows 95 when I try to alt tab between applications.
That is because nearly all of nvidia’s revenue comes from AI datacenter hardware now, and before that from crypto miners. As long as CUDA works without issue, their main clients by dollar volume are happy
Why do I need latest? Why do I need even know version of a driver for my hardware?
Someone I personally knew almost gave up on Linux because their mint install would have screen tearing issues due to an outdated driver module and kernel, since Mint follows close to Ubuntu’s kernel releases which are slow.
Cutting edge and bleeding edge kernels is one of Linux’s biggest strengths because 99% of driver modules are in the kernel, so keeping it up to date will significantly reduce the chances of issues with your hardware, especially if its anything new.
You dont need to know the version, but knowing that your updates are based on cutting edge latest stable is what can save you from driver headaches.
It’s useful to have updated drivers if a game or something isn’t working, otherwise it’s hardly a big deal, just need to keep the sysyem as up to date as it needs to run your sysyem, i’m on mint since October and never uad any headaches, even updates drivers recently to try to resolve an issue.
Since the drivers continue to be worked on after the release of the hardware. Some new functionality for new games may be developed. Or bugs may be fixed.
Seems like a dishonest question. Unless you are only using GPU compute professionally with out of date software.
NVIDIA drivers still suck on Linux, but each new update has been bringing massive usability improvements lately.
Anecdotally i had to screw around with packages and drivers and updates and what not to get wifi to work on latest Mint with a Broadcom, but nothing egregious or anything.
I’ve run into the same with the latest Ubuntu using a broadcom wireless. Might be a broad failure.
