Yes, I am aware how ironic it is to post this on Lemmy.
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Literally exactly how I sounded begging my friends to go to Fluxer with me. But like, I don’t know what else to do. 😭
complain about every tiny inconvenience caused by discord. all the time. do a lot of cursing while using it.
What do you think of Fluxer? It seems to have more users than Stoat.
It’s decent. I’m not super stoked about not having a mobile app, but the stream/screen share works, the quality seems fine, and I generally like how it works. It feels pretty much like discord (if a bit buggy at points) but with more customization.
I haven’t gotten around to trying hosting my own server yet, but if it works basically like how the rest of the app works, I’ll be happy.
Self-Hosting isn’t really a thing yet. You theoretically can do it, but it’s really hard. The team has been working on a code refractor and they intend to release proper self-hosting docs with it since it should be built with easier self-hosting in mind. They’ve also made progress on their mobile app; the screenshots looked quite nice. No ETA though on either thing, though.
I don’t know what else to do
Suck it up and mail copies of all your data directly to Mark Zuckerberg I guess.
BRB, sending Mark an individual letter of each pair of DNA per cell I have in order to make sure he gets his wish on getting a hold of my “data”.
I want Zuck to eat my ass. He can eventually build it and eat it himself.
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It’s compatible with grub? 👀
They have it on Poob.
Running an OS is bloat anyway, just run everything straight off the bootloader.
You can skip the bootloader too, just use switches to flip the bits to boot.
Real pros use paper
Cut out all the middlemen: ditch grub completely. Build your app so it runs straight out of the MBR, or just flash it into your BIOS/UEFI.
“It’s very simple… I want control over my life and a fresh hope for humanity, but if you suggest I tolerate even the TINIEST quantum of inconvenience in the process I will complain and mock until I feel better for betraying all my professed values. What, pay people for improving the thing someone already generously built for free? Why should I do that?”
I mean sometimes it’s ‘let me suggest this foss alternative that doesn’t actually do what you need it to do’ and then getting mad that the user doesn’t want to use a program that doesn’t do what they need it to.
Let’s just all go back to mIRC please
[Insert obligatory grumpy stares from ircII/irssi/whatever-real-IRC-client users when they hear a Windows 95 user referring to the whole service as “mIRC”]
slaps you with a large trout
Someone always has to make things kinky
Lol some of my formative programming time happened on mIRC script. I wrote a battle.net chat client in mIRC script, ironically right when blizzard decided to make it for game clients only and I never did get to faking a game’s handshake. Other than that, it was basically just an IRC server itself, though I never tried connecting mIRC directly to it using the IRC side, just a mIRC script client that used the mIRC script sockets and would set up a channel window for whatever channel you went to.
I also had a DnD script where you could roll basic characters, equip weapons and armor, and attack each other, I think it was 3.5-based (or maybe just 3).
Sounds like my kind of software! The thing I always hated most about Discord was that other people use it and I have to interact with them.
What do you mean you arent on grub?
It’s literally on poob
It’s on peebee with ads
Is it like Scrandle?
how else do you load your boots?
systemd boot? ;w;
after trying limine i will never use grub or systemd-boot ever again limine is perfect
Never heard about it
What’s the difference?
Configured by a single incredibly simple file on your boot partition. This is my entire config
timeout: 5 /Arch Linux protocol: linux path: boot():/vmlinuz-linux cmdline: root=UUID=b499449a-7c12-4d4d-a947-a6b0eda38414 rw module_path: boot():/initramfs-linux.img /FreeBSD protocol: efi path: boot():/EFI/freebsd/loader.efiOk, that looks clean
Thank you :-)
Sharkord has all of those things, and self hosting is a benefit?
Yeah, all discord alternatives kinda suck but also feels they’re held to higher standards. At least matrix, and I’m guilty of doing the same.
On Stoat, you can use a server’s emoji on any other server. This is something that you get for free, and Discord makes you pay for it.
Oh Txtt, you are the weirdest socialist…
I feel like I’ve been caught by the hyperbole here, but there are discord alternatives with all those features.
Matrix using the sable client is I think the smoothest alternative so far. It’s not owned by some shitty corporation, you can self host it or use one of the many existing instances, you can do voice chat and screen sharing, it’s easy to add custom emojis and stickers.
Unlike most other alternatives it’s federated which I think is crucial to actually scaling with more users and being resistant to abuse by a single host.
Yeah I’m not sure why many are saying matrix is bad. My friends and I have been using it for months now and its been great. Granted, its only 4 of us. A large 20 person server may not fare as well.
It’s buggy, doesn’t properly support screen sharing, doesn’t properly support voice calls, and all the available clients are hit or miss over which features they have. I personally think it’s harder to switch over from Discord to Matrix than from Reddit to Lemmy. Matrix sucks, but that’s probably because it’s built for businesses organizations to use, not common users like us. For that reason, I still think we need a real replacement to Discord built to be federated from the beginning.
Screen share and voice work perfectly on element x and commet. Why is yours not working?
I help moderate a medium sized server with lots of people and it’s nice! It’s public so this means we do have to care about moderation tools like draupnir which you probably don’t need to do for your personal server (unless it’s also public)
For anyone interested: such alternatives are, for example, Fluxer (easier) or I think Stoat (more control as of now).
Screen sharing support has been added to Stoat but it’s disabled on the main server so you have to self host to use it, but self hosting Stoat is a pain because the main instance is hardcoded into the clients, so you have to edit their source code and recompile them. There are also no notification sounds for some reason.
I still use it though. Much better than having all my data sold. It would also be nice if they could add a Signal-like donation system where you donate some minuscule amount of money monthly and get a small badge to indicate your support. Something as simple as that motivates people to donate, no need for paywalling the most basic stuff like Fluxer and Discord.
TBF fluxer doesn’t paywall anything if you host it yourself (since you’re obviously not tied to their infrastructure)
Fluxer is not federated though. If you plan on only interacting with your friends who were willing to join your instance that’s an alright solution, but if you want to interact with other people on other servers then you’re going to need to use their main instance.
Havent tried Fluxer, but Stoat has no screensharing and mobile cant voice chat. Plus they dont have a google-free version for Android, so I cant use the android mobile app.
I recommend Game-Vox
Clerotri is the google free client for android (on the Stoat/Revolt wiki they have a list of 3rd party clients), and it’s recommended if you’re using GrapheneOS.
As for mobile voice chat, the strange thing is Clerotri has it while the official app doesn’t.
Another comment mentioned the self-hosting requirement to screenshare (because of presumed costs)
It’s fair that you can’t screenshare on the official one, it consume a lot of resources, i wonder if maybe doing P2P screenshare would help
Fluxer looked like it was ai coded before the hype for it got it enough funding for a code refactor they’re doing right now. It’d be nice if it stayed around long term and became successful enough to be sustainable though.
so I moved to Lemmy because of the api changes… but there’s no bots on Lemmy either…?
There are a few that import Reddit posts, but there are also settings to block bots; maybe yours is set to on? But I don’t ever see bots in the comments, which is fine with me.
The bots people are generally worried about don’t announce themselves to be bots.
No financial incentive for it lol
Yet.
I’m sure .ml is loaded with bots. I’m currently chatting with a person who thinks Russia is a brilliant strategist for selling oil at a steep discount.
Those people are sadly real.
I’m sure .ml is loaded with bots. I’m currently chatting with a person who thinks Russia is a brilliant strategist for selling oil at a steep discount.
Yeah, we are all bots on .ml. Not unlike you, independent free thinker following media narratives blindly
More like, I’m trying to make a narrow point about international oil markets and they keep reading it as moral judgmet, East vs West, and/or Grand Narrative stuff. Also they keep getting verifiable facts wrong, which is annoying because then I have to correct them, distracting from the oil market conversation.
Anyway the reason I believe .ml is much more likely to have a higher bot ratio than other instances is that it’s a convenient concentration of Russian and Chinese friendly people, where narratives can be tested. The good ones that resonate get pushed by other members of the bot network outside the test bed (along with organic sharing and so forth). There are other test environments for narratives, but both China and Russia are surely interested in .ml more than other fediverse spaces.
To be clear, Western interests also have a presence here, but they don’t have the same kind of obvious choice for an instance to hang out in and test natives. I would guess they would pick lemmy.world to have more user-noise to hide in and less fear that their instance might collapse, but fuck if I know. In any case, we’re very much the backwaters and testing grounds for these bot farms. They’re not interested in us as some kind of nexus for narrative control, we’re just one of the many many places they test out stories and see which ones are worth amplifying with their big accounts on big platforms.
Lemmy was developed by Marxist-Leninists (.ml is the instance run by the devs), of course this attracts other people who critically support AES and countries opposing NATO/US imperialism.
Not everything is bot networks and narratives, and it would make far more sense to “test the waters” using a neutral instance with open sign ups like lemmy.world. You have users posting anti-China posts almost exclusively and even those I doubt are bots, as a contrast.
Yes I’m aware.
I am not saying everyone with dumb opinions is a bot, far from it. The world is drowning in idiots. But concentrations of message-friendly people is for sure one of the places you’d want to test narratives, not every message is intended for every audience. You need to recruit new folks to your cause and maintain your base. Messages that do well with your base are likely to attract cause-curious folks.
To be fair. It could be. In an evil Uber or door dash sort of way. Sell at a loss, make infrastructure dependent on it, hike up prices.
Do I think it will be or is way more like they are desperate for cash? Prolly
With pipeline stuff? Sure. There’s an infrastructure cost involved in switching sources. With tanker and rail stuff? Nah, it’s comparatively trivial to switch suppliers. Unfortunately for Russia, the most obvious declines are from pipeline sales in the first year of the war. The rest have decreased too, but those are the ones where you can just wave your hand at the graph and it’s obvious. They basically can’t afford to sell at market rate because their oil comes with too many indirect costs to the buyer at the moment.
Walmart does the same. Pushes out all the local grocers first.
Same experience here. I don’t think I’ve seen a bot in the comments yet, different story on Reddit thats for sure. And when I tried the recent Digg reboot, I’m pretty sure every second or third account was a bot
There used to be PipedVideoBot who would reply to every comment containing a YouTube link with a piped.video version. It was quite annoying, people who prefer Piped usually have a redirect set up to an instance of their choice, while others use no proxy but alternative frontends like NewPipe, Grayjay or Revanced.
I also did automation on another account of mine, posting an entry from Random Tan Studio’s “Humanization” series on !morphmoe@ani.social every day. No AI except waifu2x to upscale (the images were created as quite low-res bitmaps and looked very blurry when rescaled, which almost all modern clients do). I didn’t consider it a bot account since I would log in myself almost every day and react to comments.
Game-Vox has been very good I found. Having some serious audio problems, but they are actively fixing it. Has pretty much all the features Discord has (with voice chat being a temporary exception for me atleast), like screensharing, channels, functioning mobile app, roles, plus the added benefits of being self-hostable and opensourced. I have found it is the most complete Discord alternative out there, rough edges included.
