Definitely envious of them. I can’t get a stable system and I’m convinced wayland+nvidia are the culprit.
Firefox randomly crashes, steam randomly crashes, CS2 randomly crashes, plasma desktop randomly freezes (requires hardware button reset), haruna randomly crashes. I’ve never had a more unstable system. I’m greeted with 3 notifications of some process crashing at every boot.
I’d love to fully switch, but I cant have a system where things randomly crash like that. All this on latest Fedora KDE and I’m fairly certain I have everything needed installed from the driver side of things. On two year old hardware.
Its such a different experience from running a headless debian system.I’m sorry to hear that! I’ve been having good experiences with Wayland + NVIDIA on both Ubuntu 25.10 and EndeavourOS (whatever version is the latest). There are minor annoyances, but nothing as dire as what you’re describing.
I may need to look at other distros a bit, but KDE is non negotiable for me. I hope its not plasma that’s the problem.
I’ve been on Kubuntu with a RTX gpu for the past year. No crashes, no problems. For the April release I swapped to Wayland and it also works fine. I think Wayland has better gui scaling and multi monitor support too.
Wayland has better gui scaling and multi monitor support too
Linux mint has left the chat
Maybe kde is the problem? I use Wayland + Nvidia and before xorg. I never liked kde it was always buggy for me so I haven’t used it for many years but when I did was it xorg + Nvidia on Manjaro. But since I went with other DEs have I never had any problems.
I don’t know what I’m doing, I just installed some Arch thing and so far everythings worked - although my hdd is sluggish compared to my old windows install.
Please try memtest86. I had issues that almost looked like this.
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll try it and see if there’s anything wrong there, though I don’t expect it since windows works fine.
I couldn’t get Fedora working well with Nvidia. Bazzite worked for me out of the box. Bazzite is just Fedora with some out of the box configurations, so it must be possible to make Fedora work with Nvidia. I am just not capable of making it work.
I am happy with Bazzite though.
Just use Xorg. Wayland is notorious for Nvidia issues.
One in a while there is an issue with CS2 for me too, but it’s usually because of fullscreen/windowed mode and the window manager being aggressive. Try turning it off/on with launch parameters.
I have been running Bazzite (with KDE) and an Nvidia GPU (RTX 3070) for almost 6 months and I have not had any issues.
Everything worked with no additional tweaks. I was playing Dead Space (2023) almost half an hour after installing the OS, it was amazing. If you have the time, you should give it a try, I highly recommend it.
3.20% is practically nothing but everyone in here is foaming at the mouth like this means windows is done or something. very weird behavior
It amounts to several million converts in the past 4 years, at least.
Love to see it
Some of us still duel-boot
duel-boot
Sounds dangerous! :)
That’s what happens when Windows overwrites your grub
awesome!
I’m curious as to how much profit is lost by M$ or Apple for each basis point of the market that switches to Linux.
They make more on cloud servers than as operating systems nowadays.
I’ve read the same thing but I’ll bet a dollar that no one using Linux is paying for any Microsoft cloud services.
That would essentially mean the only reason to use Linux over Windows is ideological opposition to Microsoft, which is sheer nonsense.
As a somewhat side fact, most of Microsoft’s own cloud services are running on Linux. This fact nudges me to believe the opposite of your conclusion. That is to say, changing your OS doesn’t necessarily change the software you use.
That said, I would be very surprised if Microsoft’s cloud offerings were as popular among Linus users.
Some people use Linux but don’t mind about Microsoft
Ex: a lot of people in computer science
I noticed a lot of students use Linux for their studies because in CS we pretty much only use Linux, but they run Windows at home or they solely run Linux for studying so they don’t care about the rest
They would’ve stayed with Windows if it provided the same features and full compatibility
Till that number starts hitting like 15% because these are just private users. These big companies aren’t even going to be able to notice the shift.
We are already at >7% for English-speaking Steam users. At this rate 15% isn’t terribly far off.
But, even now, it’s getting increasingly difficult to tell your manager “we should lower our product’s sales by 7%”.
Apple probably isn’t seeing it as a factor. Anyone switching from MacOS to Linux on Apple hardware has purchased Apple hardware and will likely continue doing so because they’re the kind of people who buy Apple products and you can’t change that about a person.
Of those Windows users switching to Linux, how many of them have decided to stop using a Windows license they’ve had for years? Instead of upgrading to 11 for free, they’re switching to Linux? Or, how many of them are rocking the Activate Windows watermark? There’s probably a pittance or two lost in ad revenue, but Microsoft almost isn’t a B2C company anymore.
Apple probably isn’t seeing it as a factor. Anyone switching from MacOS to Linux on Apple hardware has purchased Apple hardware and will likely continue doing so because they’re the kind of people who buy Apple products and you can’t change that about a person.
When they are ready for a new computer, are they going to spend double to buy Mac hardware when they specifically want a Linux machine? Many will say no.
We’re at a point in history where an Apple computer is kind of difficult to recommend as a Linux box because they’ve pulled off of x86. Gaming. On Linux. On Apple Silicon. I bet you can do it, the Asashi or whatever people have done a remarkable job of reverse engineering from no published documentation at all from what I hear. But, we’re several generations of Apple Silicon in, I imagine the people who have jumped ship for Linux have done so by now, leaving the blue bubble brigade to themselves.
Remember, to many people, that Apple badge on the lid of that laptop isn’t just a billboard for a company you don’t own, it’s the badge of an in-group. There are entire states in the union where they won’t let you buy food if you’ve got a Samsung phone. It’s now government policy in Israel.
These are private computers for gaming with Steam installed. This will literally be less than pocket change to them. They likely lose more from pirated Windows and secondhand purchasers of Apple products.
The amount of money tech giants lose will not be affected for a long time. The main achievement for Linux right now would be to get a foothold, to make it known to the public, to normalise its use. The big change will come when organisations start moving to Linux (which you would think would be a priority considering the fact that it is free and more secure).
Probably needs more corporate spyware which Linux users aren’t likely to tolerate.
which you would think would be a priority considering the fact that it is free and more secure
And regularly used across their back end already.
Love to see it!
This site won’t update till tomorrow, but Steam’s English Linux numbers are >2x the overall numbers (China apparently hates Linux). Going to be something like 7% for English-speaking Linux use. :)
I find it weird that China hates Linux
Harder to centralize control over the user. That’s the big reason, I’d imagine.
Isn’t that just the language choice? I always use english for any OS because the translations just suck in my opinion, and make it harder to find any settings or menus. I assume it might be also partly caused by the translation not being ideal?
I find it weird if the admin was pushing for anything besides Linux. Especially apple/windows. But I know nothing about china
All the penguins were nabbed.
I would think it might have to do with the distros they have access to. All Chinese controlled and curated.
Not very relevant but shouldn’t tiny negative numbers (red “0.00”) be “-0.00”?
I guess it kinda depends on the accuracy of the numbers available to the application. If 0.00 is actually zero then a negative zero doesn’t make sense. But if the number was -0.001 then yeah -0.00 would make sense, it would be conveying a decrease just not in the decimal places displayed.
But if it is actually zero then they probably should’ve used a different colour than red because it is confusing.
My guess is it’s probably just if x > 0 then “green” else “red” kinda logic happening.
But if it is actually zero then they probably should’ve used a different colour than red because it is confusing.
I agree, gray perhaps… or they are capitalists, in which case NUMBER MUST GO UP
Linux use on steam has also passed mac use. The three most popular mac versions are still used by more than the 3 most popular linux versions, but the total for macs is under 3%.
And for me personally, I didn’t even have to give anything of value up to make the switch. I kept my old windows machine in a running condition as a backup, but I think I’m about ready to start retiring that machine entirely, at least as a windows machine.
It’s been moving fast. It barely moved like a decade ago
And how many of them are properly working at the moment?
are you asking which linux distros work or which distros steam works on? i’m having trouble squaring either question since any distro with guided installer is trivial to get set up once you know how to get into UEFI/BIOS and steam runs fantastic on linux. did you try steam on linux recently and run into issues? what distro did you try? do you have nvidea hardware?
Man I wonder when Valve manages to ship a 64-Bit Steam Client.
My understanding is that Steam has nearly or completely removed the old 32 bit dependencies recently.
checks the HL3 calendar
soon™
Why would you run Ubuntu core? Are they only running steam?
this is steam as snap package, just like how they count flatpak steam
I have one machine where I run steam as a headless instance as I just use it for remoteplay to the TV.
Oh shit, that’s smart
To add another layer, I actually run it as a container - Steam Headless
i’m presuming people are using a just enough os (JEOS) distro to install a gui of their choice and steam and not much else.
That makes sense. Pure gaming machine
I was wondering who’s gaming on their thermostat.
Linux mint 21: loses a little
Linux mint 22: wins a little
my brother in christ. they just updated their pc
Importantly, there was a net increase in Linux users and a net decrease in Windows users.
Still increases in other areas ☺️👍
I like how all Arch based distros are in “quotes” by the way.
Right? It’s oozing with sarcasm, like—ArCh LiNuX
lmao
I am waiting for SteamOS Desktop to be released before switching. I want the support of an 800lb corporate gorilla, that prioritizes gaming. I use mods and play niche games, so I need a Linux that balances casual users while allowing for some power user stuff.
I already know about Bazzite and Cachy, but again, I want the support of a focused giant who won’t die or change hands.
‘won’t die’ ? I mean Gabe is great, but I don’t think he’s immortal.
Granted. I really hope he is raising a protege to take the helm when the time comes, or divides up the Steam Kingdom and lets the best folk win.
I’ve been gaming on Arch (btw) since 2013 and only had minor issues I could resolve with a bit of googling.
Things have only gotten better over the years. Steam will just work on pretty much any distro as it has its own runtime.
I don’t do just Steam. As said before, I sometimes use mods or play niche games, such as ones that require Japanese locale, Windows v3.1, GOG games, and so forth. While I am not a true power user, my needs definitely go beyond Steam alone. I had tried out Mint a year ago, Hero, Lutris, Mini Galaxy, and so forth failed to work smoothly with my games.
What games require JP locale? Do you mean hentai games ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)?
Nowadays it’s super simple, with Lutris or another launcher. But you can still make Steam launch those too, with Proton.
I respect that. Tho do remember this is opensource instead of a traditional system.
Any improvement to steamos will improve bazzite and any improvement to bazzite will improve steamos.
Which is good. It is just that I don’t have much patience for troubleshooting, I prefer to just game or work. For me, I would stick to Windows if it weren’t for Microsoft likely being a bad actor.
I have doubts that Valve will officially support SteamOS on anything but their own hardware (and maybe some partners’), in which case unless you plan on buying a Steam Machine you’re going to be stuck for a very, very long time.
Valve said they want SteamOS to work on every PC. My guess is, they will release a more PC friendly version some time soonish after Steam Machine releases.
Got my new bazzite gaming laptop YTD!
Screw you, windows, I’m out
