I wanted to share an interesting statistic with you. Approximately 1 out of every 25 people with a Google Pixel phone is running GrapheneOS right now. While it’s difficult to get an exact number, we can make educated guesses to get an approximate number.
How many GrapheneOS users are there? According to an estimate released by GrapheneOS today, the number of GrapheneOS devices is approaching 400,000. This estimate is based on the number of devices that downloaded recent GrapheneOS updates. Some users may have multiple devices, such as organizations, and some users may download and flash updates externally, but it’s the best estimate we have.
How many Google Pixel users are there? Despite Google’s extensive data collection, this one is surprisingly harder to estimate, since Google hasn’t released an exact number. There’s a number floating around that Google has 4-5% of the smartphone market, which is between 10 million and 13.2 million users in the United States. I can’t find the source of where this information came from. That number is problematic, too, because Japan supposedly uses more Google Pixel phones than the United States. The Pixel 9 series was also a big jump in market share for Google. I couldn’t find any numbers smaller than 10 million, and it made the math nice, so that is what I went with.
Putting the numbers together, it means that 4% of Google Pixel users are running GrapheneOS. That means in a room of 25 Google Pixel users, 1 of them will be a GrapheneOS user. If you include all custom Android operating systems, that number would certainly be much, much higher.
To put it into perspective, each pixel in this image represents ~5 Google Pixel users. Each white pixel represents that those ~5 people use GrapheneOS:
Even with generous estimates to Google’s market share, GrapheneOS still makes up a large portion of their users.
And remember that some of those black areas are other oses and not just only normal pixel phones, what a win for alt OSs
What is normal?
Can I install it on a pixel that bricked during an upgrade?
Depends on if it’s a soft brick or a hard brick. Does it bootloop? Or just not turn on at all? Can you get into recovery?
I can’t remember. I’ll have to dig it out. I was extremely pissed off I had to buy this phone after 2 years and Google wanted an egregious amount to look at it.
c/dataisbeautiful :P
I had no idea the share was so large.
Hello fellow criminals, anyone get up to any good crime lately?
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Nice try FBI
Just doing my best to avoid surveillance capitalism and government surveillance. Is that illegal yet?
LTT beat you to the joke.
Maybe This Phone ISN’T Just for Criminals - Trying Graphene OS for a Month.
Who cares about toxic LTT?
That is in fact the reference
LTT did not make that joke though? He also copied it.
I didn’t do the legally mandated number of "Hail Corporate!"s yesterday.
Crimes are free and you can just do them as much as you want.
The government doesn’t want you to know this.
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I’ve heard you can’t use banking apps on graphene os, how do you get around that? And are there any other trade offs that you have to make for more privacy?
One of my ideas for increasing GrapheneOS market share is to market GOS as the minimalist phone so many crave.
In recent times, I’ve stumbled across a handful of articles about how dumbphones are back, and how people crave more minimalist phones to curb smartphone addiction or otherwise.
GrapheneOS is a great minimalist phone that’s still “smart,” yet secure and private.
GOS is a way better option than dumbphones because:
- Chances are you’ll need some sort of smartphone functionality. For example: Digital “live” tickets that you can’t screenshot and need to be opened on your phone directly (Ticketmaster, MLB, etc.)
- Using a dumbphone reverts you to older technologies and protocols, like cell towers and SMS. These are inherently insecure and shouldn’t be used anymore. So even though you might “feel” like you’re better off, your communications (text, audio, video) take a huge leap backwards in terms of privacy and security.
cool. that’s actually way more than i expected.
the fact so many people distrust phones gives me some unironic faith for humanity, this also explains why they are trying so hard to kill custom roms.
Yeah 4% is big enough to get on Google’s radar as a threat. Especially if it’s trending upwards.
This is more than just a few tinfoil hats now.
And yes they’re working on locking bootloaders and also making AOSP less useful
One one hand, a superior ROM choice
On the other hand, subpar crappy Google hardware
I am a freak who would die happy if this OS somehow made it onto my Unihertz Jellystar
Totally agree processor wise. But can you give me a phone that has bigger camera sensor (+telephoto) than Pixel 9 Pro that has a screen smaller than 6.3 inches?
How to say 4% and make it sound more impressive.
Google sold 40 million Pixels between 2016 and 2023, and that number has grown rapidly in the last few years. I think an estimate of around 40 million active Pixel phones is reasonable, which would give GrapheneOS a relative market share of 1%; certainly less than 2%.
I’m certain that most people between 2016 and 2023 bought multiple devices to upgrade old ones.
Have you ever been outside? In any social situation? Have you ever seen anyone with a Graphene OS phone in those situations other than you? No?
Then your estimates are wrong.
Do you walk up to every stranger with a Pixel and ask if they run GrapheneOS? No?
Lol I talk to family, friends, colleagues, people I play ports with. Have literally never once seen a Graphene phone.
I literally cannot think of anyone anymore who even roots their phone, let alone installs a third party OS.
Y’all are honestly deluded if you think it’s remotely close to OPs numbers.
I doubt OP’s numbers, but your experience is not representative data of anything except your friend group.
Friend group, work group, sports groups, friends of friends met at parties etc. It’s a sample size in the hundreds. It’s not insignificant to see zero usage when OP is claiming 50%. If their numbers are to be believed there should be regions where there’s close to 100% usage.
I’m on, I think, my 3rd Pixel. All of them were chosen because of the possibility of putting a third-party firmware on them, but my current one is the first I’ve actually done it to.
Is there a theydidthemath lemmy community lol I’d like to be one of those reddit posters who link communities because funny lol
Makes sense. Pixel is the successor to Nexus, which was always meant for tinkerers. The Pixel is (was?) sold unlocked, too. Unless you bought it from a carrier.
Pixel is also underpowered compared to iPhone and Galaxy, but priced similarly. So either you buy it because you just love Google that much… or you want to do something else with it.
Wondering if Graphene OS supports the AI hallucination camera mode on the Pixel 10 Pro where you zoom it at “100X” and it makes up details. Don’t get me wrong here — as an iPhone/Galaxy user (I main the iPhone but I do use both, and have also used HTC and Motorola) I think the feature is awesome… unless you’re trying to capture text. In which case it won’t work. Well, it’ll try to work. It won’t work well. And I don’t suppose you could show it the text later and update the 100X photo, but if you had that opportunity, you would just take a better picture up close.
I have a Pixel 9 Pro because when I bought it it had the best camera that you can could in Europe. I tried the best iPhone and Samsung phones at the time and Pixel was for sure better, especially in low-light conditions.
Only Huawei has better cameras (by a fair margin as well). I’ve never experienced that it feels slow or underpowered, but maybe that’s the case on paper.
A lot of it is “on paper” as you say.
For example, iPhone uses NVMe SSD storage. The best Android phones use UFS, which is cheaper, and, “on paper,” slower. But there are other bottlenecks to consider, and in real world performance, UFS is at least as good.
I can only speculate as to why Apple uses the part that costs more and is only better in theory, but my best guess is that the iPhone is intended to be used for far longer than they’re marketed. Like Apple marketing would have you believe you need to upgrade every year or two, but Apple engineering would allow you to easily use an iPhone for five years, if you could resist the temptation of marketing. And it’s honestly not really that much different with Android. I have a 2019 Galaxy S10 that still runs relatively well. Could use a new battery, it doesn’t last long when it’s powered on, but it still runs well in the time it has.
Yeah I think a lot of Apple users get really attached to their gadgets and want to use them forever. Also, there’s the resale value that helps the kind of customer that wants to buy the new thing every year. So making sure that the products hold up for a long time is probably a really solid strategy for them.
You are comparing worldwide numbers to US-only numbers.
Yeh, that’s crazy maths…
That image is a horrible way to represent any ratio. I love it!
I actually do like it. I don’t see it as trying to show an actually accurate ratio, or for you to be able to make an informed decisions from it. I read it as a vibe check, just a quick “what would a room fu LLM of pixel users” look like.
I’m not sure if that’d be what it’d look like… distributions are hardly ever that heterogeneous.
I’d bet all the GrapheneOS users would get together in their own corner and nerd out about their customizations.
For the record: 1 in 25 is 4% …the image gives (intentionally?) the illusion of the proportion being higher.
Like and subscribe and SLAM that “press x to doubt” button so we can grow awareness that there’s literally no way this is true in any universe.
