Been waiting for this for a long time.
Oh my god. Push to talk.
:o
Holy fuck.
Linux didn’t have the most basic voice chat function up to now??? :O
They STILL don’t???
What the actual
Checks original release date for ventrilo
It was an issue with Wayland. Before that we had X11, where global shortcuts wasn’t an issue.
Apple phones used to have headphone jacks, removable batteries, and expandable memory.
How is this relevant to our discussion?
They lost everything, you lost the shortcuts to everything
We didn’t lost shortcuts to everything. It’s only about global shortcuts, all other still work. And given the Wayland global shortcuts are now functional and officially supported, its not the same situation anymore. The difference to iPhones is, that you cannot do anything about it on iPhone. On Wayland however desktops environments such as KDE, GNOME and Hyperland could implement a custom variant (or the draft version of the portal) and have it functional; it was just not a standard.
So no, the situation is not entirely comparable. We are not at mercy by one single company.
Ahhh, blame it on Wayland. I see how it is.
You know that the Wayland portal for global shortcuts took 10 years discussions before they finally settled in, right? Off course it is to blame the Wayland devs (those responsible for this portal), not Discord.
Meh, I already have a global mute shortcut. I have a keyboard shortcut for this script I found somewhere that toggles mic audio capture in ALSA.
mic_on=$(amixer get Capture | grep '\[on\]')if [ "$mic_on" = "" ] ; thenamixer set Capture toggle && paplay /usr/share/sounds/ocean/stereo/device-added.ogaelseamixer set Capture toggle && paplay /usr/share/sounds/ocean/stereo/device-removed.ogafiThis will mute all applications. While a workaround for your setup, on other use cases it wouldn’t work if the user wants to mute a specific application only.
I am quite curious what the mechanism for that will be
XDG Global shortcuts portal? Has existed and been supported by plasma and gnome for a while https://flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-portal/docs/doc-org.freedesktop.portal.GlobalShortcuts.html
Hyperland also did that if I’m right. They supported an alpha version of the global shortcuts. Nobody knew if this is the final form or not. Global shortcuts are official since 1 month or so, see https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/2142 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/525
That only took a decade to get done. Good job!
To be fair, it wasn’t the fault of Discord this time. The Wayland developers took their time, because they couldn’t agree (until now).
FINALLY
When I need to check something on Discord I do it with a browser anyway, I tried installing it on linux but every time I would run it I would get a demand to manually install a new binary because there was an update, and I don’t want it having that level of access to my computer anyway.
It used to do that for one of my devices, but it has since stopped, no idea what to say to the access though.
does screen share work on Wayland yet?
Yeah, has for over a year now.
It does for my setup. I’m on a not too crazy install of Arch with KDE for my DE and I have discord installed with flatpak. It’s been at least 3 months with no issues for me.
I feel like it’s been working for almost 2 years at this point for me. The only issue I have is it shares all audio instead of just the application I’m sharing.
too little, too late
Wow and to think I could have gone without knowing that and that it would have had absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever. Crazy. Makes you think. About burritos or something. Certainly not about Discord on Linux though.
Who uses Linux thats still on discord ? Thats like non compat lol
Everyone I know on Linux uses Discord.
Sometimes there isn’t a choice because others you’re in contact with prefer discord.
Not sure how you weren’t able to think this for yourself?
If you don’t support their choice to use discord, perhaps they will leave discord and go to something better. The same applies to twitter, instagram, facebook etc
“Not sure how you weren’t able to think this for yourself?”
Be the change
They will just not follow you to whichever app with 5 users you move to tbh
Then they should be left behind, it’s not like there is a shortage of humans on the planet.
You are not a very serious person
I’m very serious about not being apathetic, and/or a conformist.
Some people lead
Some people follow
Some people shakes their heads, and see soylent green as almost inevitable.
Yep, thats me. People can’t make the smallest change to get away from evil corpo shit then sucks for them.
Crow needs to learn.
*Raven
most likely: Corvus coronoides perplexus
Well known for their intelligence, they wouldn’t make excuses for backing trash.
wait until u find how many distros + libre software use pisscorp
It’s how I stay in touch with friends. I use Vesktop. Flatpak. Removes the tracking
Why not just open a web browser tab and go to Discord webpage?
Uhh they still store all your images photos and voice. And likely use your voice for ai training.
TypeScript
damn. Gonna stick to slidcord until it gets fixed.
Some of the tracking. They still store your messages you send in plain text and who knows what they do with that!
I found out the other week that its the only social media I have left. Except LinkedIn but in this economy…?
Anyway, its my most reliable way to talk to all of my friends and half my family, and I hate it. But hey, at least its not Facebook.
I run fedora for my main pc, cachyos on my laptop and ubuntu server for the home server PC - for the Linux street cred.
Is that irony, and/or are the likes ironic? This is social media.
I hate to say it but Lemmy is also social media.
I just reorganized some bookmarks and thought about how can I unite Lemmy and Imgur in one group; Social. I have no idea how this could be categorized other than being social media. Any ideas welcome.
I haven’t used discord for a couple of years. got an email yesterday informing me that unless I log in soon, my account will be deleted.
…oh no
I’m going to let them delete it, saves me having to
Why do something yourself when someone is more than willing to do it for you!
Can’t wait to see how this will result in another massive leak of personal data that they totally don’t retain.
What has this anything to do with leaking personal data? This is about the global shortcuts, that can be used while your operating system focus is on another application. This is a long standing issue on Wayland and just recently got solved I think. And Discord being one of the first to make use of this new Wayland “feature” is absurd (in a good way). So I don’t understand where you coming from with this statement.
What exactly do you want tell me with that? I should search for data leaks through a search engine? This does not address my point whatsoever. We are talking about global shortcuts protocol from Wayland here, has nothing to do with data leaks: https://flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-portal/docs/doc-org.freedesktop.portal.GlobalShortcuts.html
“What exactly do you want tell me with that? I should” click on those links?
I’m guessing their point was to do with the 1st word in the title of the thread.
But your link does not address my issue, you are talking about data leaks. But the global shortcuts on Wayland has nothing to do with Discord dataleaks that happened in the past. You are conflicting two different topics here. Click the link I provided (its not a search link, its an actual result) and read through to understand what global shortcuts are.
I’m not qualified to address your issue.
This has nothing to do with data leaks. Global shortcuts just mean that if you focus on a different application, then you can still control the application in background with shortcuts like Ctrl+1. That’s all. This changes nothing about data collection or data leaking.
I’d recommend Stoat because they won’t rape you for all the personal data they can.
App looks very similar too. But friends, other devs and communities aren’t using it. Their privacy agreements seems to be much better than Discord, especially because their servers are located in Europe. But one should still understand this is not entirely private either. Note, I am not dunking on this service, just want to remember people to read privacy notices:
We do use certain service providers to process your data on our behalf.
Law & Order: We may disclose your information to third parties only if such disclosure is absolutely necessary to comply with a valid legal process, protect any person from death or serious injury, prevent fraud or abuse, or protect our rights, property, safety and interest.
If you wish to request deletion of any information stored on our servers … Exceptions apply for the third-party service providers used to process your data as described in the service supplement.
We may also process your personal data to comply with our legal obligations, to protect our legitimate interests or the interests of others.
- https://stoat.chat/legal/privacy
An alternative could also be Matrix, which at least is decentralized: https://matrix.org/
I’d recommend Fluxer over Stoat. Seems to be gaining more users and traction in a fraction of Stoat’s time.
I recommend Haven if your focus (!) is self hosting. Just a single container.
Chatto is also quite interesting (especially architecturally), but I dislike event sourcing without ability to technically prune old stuff. Also it’s closer to Slack than Discord.
then where’s stoat.sdf.org? 🤣
The lights are barely kept on for our Lemmy instance, I don’t expect a Stoat server anytime soon…
Then maybe they should take a massive bankloan🤣😂
discord and twitter…
Name a better duo.
pizza and pineapple
If they enjoy discord, they are likely okay with Twitter. At best you would see Discord on Bluesky.
bluesky aka blue twitter












