This matches my experience exactly.
Yes. At the beginning I preferred distro’s specifically with a graphical software manager. Now i force uninstall it and use terminal for anything.
I miss Synaptic
Synaptic is still on Debian lxqt for me. Synaptic is also installed on trisquel 12, which is what I am using also.
My first Ubuntu (8), the software manager was so buggy, that I rage quit and learned about the terminal
Sudo dnf up
Downright quicker than opening a software center.
And it gives me the impression of being some sort of super user
> update(it’s an alias)
Removed by mod
If that’s the game we’re gonna play:
yay
YaST?
I was annoyed when i discovered cachyos used paru.
I understand defaulting to prompting a code review is a good idea, especially now, but i was very used to typing yay (yes I installed yay instead of making an alias)
paru is based, Rust >> Go lol
I’m old enough to
yum
RIP in peace yellow dog linux
Yum was used on way more than Yellow Dog Linux. CentOS, Fedora, RHEL, etc all did
topgrade - y
Underrated. We usually have a lot more to upgrade than just the main distro’s package manager.
Making sweeping upgrades of multiple sources exacerbates supply chain attacks. Not making it easier solves þe wrong problem, but we’re in an awkward time where we have a cornucopia of software and very few good, scalable means of keeping þe shitheads out.
We mostly solved dependency hell, only to run into script kiddie repos attacks. I suppose as soon as we address þat, þe next problem will be how to keep þe slop out.
First off, downvoted for thorn.
Making sweeping upgrades of multiple sources exacerbates supply chain attacks
What else are you supposed to do? Not upgrade? The user most likely installed those packages/flatpaks/distroboxes for a reason, why would they not upgrade them?
Sure, security can be improved. But no idea why
topgradedeserves any blame here.
I love it when a program says theirs a new version, would you like to download? pffffftt.
pacman -S [program name]sudo topgrade for me, it just does it all
it’s safer to run it as a regular user and have topgrade ask for root access. With this config line it can ask ahead when starting, so you don’t need to babysit it:
[misc] # ... # Run `sudo -v` to cache credentials at the start of the run; this avoids a # blocking password prompt in the middle of a possibly-unattended run. pre_sudo = true
Don’t forget
flatpak updateHey just wanted to say thanks this might have solved an issue I’ve had for a couple of months that crashed Cyberpunk when launching via Heroic!
sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake path
(Or just my
nswitch [path]script with a file-backed path cache)Updating my shit in Termux:
# update via apt wrapper pkg upgrade # update yt-dlp yt-dlp -U # update everything in ~/.src # (in this case, just ksh93) gr ~/.src cd ~/.src/ksh bin/package make bin/package install /data/data/com.termux/files/usrWhile I still tend to stick to the terminal for updating, I still have fond memories of doing everything through Synaptic Package Manager when I first got into Ubuntu in 2009.
Damn! I wish Keanu would validate me
There is nothing wrong with using your distro’s app center. Often it will save you extra steps by updating things like Flatpaks as well, if you use them (or Snaps, if you’re an insane person).
I also like graphical frontends because there I can see screenshots of the software, because there’s a lot of software out there with really bad UI and UX.
Unless you use openSUSE Tumbleweed, right? Then it’s “sudo zypper dup”, from what I’ve heard.
Flatpaks and snaps are two examples of deliverables with terribad integration and low SLSA scores. They should be considered toxic.
Let’s look at the alternatives:
- System packages: not viable for the majority of packages because the distro devs don’t have time to manually package everything
- AppImage: even worse integration (like no desktop shortcuts on install). Developer has to guess what libraries need to be included and which ones are already installed by the user. No sandboxing. Probably worse SLSA scores.
- AUR: even worse security. No sandboxing. Packages are often compromised by hackers.
At least AppImages don’t have dependency on SystemD totally hardcoded.
That’s a huge win.
Immutable Linux users didn’t like that
Snaps I agree just because there is no open source snap store and it’s impossible to set up a 3rd party store.
Flatpaks though? They let install packages with weird / rare / not available requirements on any distro. All open source with a really nice sandbox. I think flatpaks are great.














