• slickgoat@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Not to be that guy, but we have been under-paying for coffee for many years now. The price of beans kept going up, but customers were locked into what a cup of coffee should be and extremely price sensitive about addressing the reality.

    A catch-up is underway all over the world.

    Note. Not a cafe owner and I don’t have anything to do with coffee except drink it.

  • Victor@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Y’all coffee drinkers are still gonna buy that shit though aren’t ya. Whatever the price they set, you will buy.

  • 1984@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    I stopped drinking coffee when it became too expensive. Problem solved. :)

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      2 months ago

      Remember when everyone was buying those Keurig cups? So crazy they were like 80 cents a cup just get yourself coffee at Dunkin at that point

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        2 months ago

        Yeah people seem to be OK with paying a lot for their coffee it seems… :)

        I mean, I kind of understand it. When I was working, i was rewarding myself with nice coffee, just to have something nice during the day…

        Now I don’t work anymore and it has led to removing a lot of stupid costs and unhealthy habits.

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          2 months ago

          Idk, it costs me 3€ to get a 250g pack of ground coffee. 5€ to get a 250g pack of sustainable zapatista coffee. I can make many cups with a single pack. And yet, the price for a single espresso is usually 3€ or more in my area.

          Of course the beans are always getting more expensive, but it’s still nowhere close to that price.

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            2 months ago

            You’re paying for time, that’s the most expensive part of all restaurant food. Time in employees wages, time in the building’s rent cost, and so on. The coffee beans are probably the third lowest costing part of the cup of coffee, just above the water and electricity.

  • notsosure@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Coffee prices will continue to go up; most people do not realize that already today climate collapse is responsible for part of the inflation. Coffee and chocolate plantations are suffering from erratic weather and droughts. In addition, demand for coffee is continuously increasing too; but overall all crops are suffering from lower productivity, so food will get more and more expensive… even if we manage to not pass the 2.5C global heating.

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      2 months ago

      Small scale growers/roasters have had 0% pressure to increase prices as their business does not rely on Brazilian hektofarms. You can get vastly better coffee at a comparative price if you care about the taste of your coffee.

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        2 months ago

        The cost of coffee in a cafe is more about staff and rent, sure, but when the raw ingredients go up, it still affects the price.

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        2 months ago

        Let me think about this.

        Sure does. They would lose money if the cost of the beans was more expensive than the coffee sold for to the customer.

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    2 months ago

    In my country, this is about 15-20 US cents per sachet, imported from Indonesia. It is cheap and processed, but once mixed in a cup, it’s available at any roadside stand to go along with a bread roll, crackers, or a cigarette.

    Looked it up on Walmart and it goes for US$27 for 30 sachets.

    • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Heavy tariffs, I presume?

      Not likely, just campitalism doing it’s thing. If people buy it at ~$1 each, they’ll sell it for that, and try to raise the price again next year.

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    2 months ago

    Not defending the price of a cup of coffee at all, but as someone who roasts their own coffee (both cause I love the process and am a cheap bastard), its only fair to point out the price of green beans is almost exactly double the price it was 3 years ago.

    Again, plenty of ways to slice the astronomic price, but at the end of the day I would only half blame the restaurant here on the mark up

    https://www.macrotrends.net/datasets/2535/coffee-prices-historical-chart-data

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      2 months ago

      Do you use robusta or arabica? My understanding is that arabica is what’s skyrocketing in price, but many coffee shops use robusta beans which are more climate change tolerant (and cheaper).

      This feels more like oil companies arbitrarily jacking up prices in 23 and using Russia invading Ukraine as an excuse (despite only a small fraction of our oil coming from Russia).

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        2 months ago

        The only people using robusta (at least in the US, I cant speak for other markets) is bottom tier trash like Folgers. No real coffee shop uses it.

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          2 months ago

          Vietnamese-style coffee is the one exception I know of. But yeah, I feel like anyone who likes coffee enough to avoid mass-market Folger’s trash would be very surprised if they happened to sip robusta while expecting arabica.

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      2 months ago

      Your post made me wonder proportion of the price corresponds to the beans. I’m surprised it’s so high honestly, and it may still have gone up since 2024.

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      2 months ago

      In the past 25 years ive been an avid coffee drinker, its rare I’ll be at a diner and look at the price of coffee. It should be between 2 and 4 bucks (for a good cup, like local roasted).

      Now if they go and get the same cup again tomorrow, thats on them.

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    2 months ago

    Ground coffee is about $8 a bag at the grocery. Much cheaper to make your own at home.

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      2 months ago

      The most expensive stuff I buy is $18 per 12oz (used to be 16oz) bag. Still makes about 20 cups of some of the best coffee money can buy.

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        2 months ago

        The price of good coffee has definitely risen lately, but the price at the bottom of the market has really cranked up. Something like a can of folgers has basically doubled in the past year or so.

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      2 months ago

      I say this, but i shouldn’t jinx it. I’m sure there are a lot of companies who are salivating at the idea of jacking up the price of ground coffee at the grocery to match the ridiculous expense of retail.

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      2 months ago

      The point is that we should be able to maintain a certain standard of living…

      Whats the point of constantly telling people to eat at home and not enjoy anything that costs money?

      Why even eat food when we can just eat soylent? Why even eat when we can just live in a pod of goop and be connected to the matrix? Much cheaper to live like that!

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        2 months ago

        You make an excellent point. It had just occurred to me because i have been having to cut back and find solutions to ridiculous price gouging like this. Between the high prices and the cost cutting quality of eating out these days, i find myself making a lot more stuff at home. I’ve also had to remove a lot of restaurants from my list of places to eat. One place charged me $30 for scrambled eggs, oatmeal, and iced tea. I haven’t been back.

        • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          and i wasn’t calling your post out specifically… i see this all over the internet… people complain about the price of going out and the advice is always “just stay home and make food/coffee!”

          i don’t want to just survive on the cheapest possible budget and never enjoy anything… that’s just a race to the bottom and ends with us sitting in little pods living out whatever dystopian nightmare they predicted decades ago…

      • huquad@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        If you’d stop buying avacado toast, you’d finally have enough money to buy an NFT of a house

      • village604@adultswim.fan
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        2 months ago

        Because if you continue paying the high prices, then companies will just increase them again. Because the market will bear it.

        The only way to stop it is to vote with your wallet. It only took like 1% of subscribers canceling to get Disney to change its stance on Kimmel.

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          2 months ago

          It wasn’t subscribers. It was Disney adults cancelling their vacations. That’s how Disney actually makes money, they won’t fuck with those people.

        • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          but you’re comparing disney to a local cafe…

          these guys aren’t just willy-nilly increasing the price of coffee for funsies. a lot of these issues have to do with supply chain, commercial rents, and billionaire created issues… the real solution isn’t just to stay home and let your local cafe go bankrupt… need to solve the big picture issues that are causing inflation without the wage increases that we all need.

      • illusionist@lemmy.zip
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        2 months ago

        In microeconomic theory, an agent gains utility from consumption and has a willingness to pay. If a normal product has a higher price than the willingness to pay is, he will not consume that product. He will consume another product.

        I am not sure if I shall laugh but you are suggesting to ignore the willingness to pay and just pay whatever the price is because your utility from dining out is incredibly high.

        You can easily substitute food at a restaurant. Food at restaurants is mostly not even good anymore. You are doing yourself a favor if you do not consume their ultra high processed food.

        Also, you may have enough money to spend as much as you want for a cup of coffe but there are people, most people, who can (or should) not afford a cup for 5 bucks because buying a pack for 8 lasts all month vs 150 if consumed every day.

        Craving is a very bad state for the mind. Becoming free of craving gives you more than consuming all the shiny stuff that you see all day long, everywhere.

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        2 months ago

        The difference is getting a coffee at a bar vs getting coffee at home, not switching ingredients.

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          2 months ago

          OK doesn’t look like a bar tom me.
          OP is not clear about that.
          But yes buying out is always expensive.

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            2 months ago

            You’re right it’s not clear, but to me it’s a very unlikely price and a very unlikely cup for a coffee at home.

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              2 months ago

              The price does not seem unlikely if it’s a pack of ground coffee.
              That kind of cup is pretty normal here. Not as much as it used to be, but some people still prefer traditional coffee cups instead of mugs. And the little creamer thingy is pretty normal too if you use milk in your coffee.
              Also most bars here would have bigger cups than that.
              But it’s impossible to say for sure one way or the other. There is not a lot to go on in that picture.

              But the headline says “this coffee” and that would indicate it’s just the 1 cup of coffee.
              So maybe it is a bar?

  • Hoimo@ani.social
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    2 months ago

    That’s the stuff they serve for free after every church service. Just bring a thermos and ask them to fill 'er up.

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        2 months ago

        A church service is the unit of church. Most of them will occur on Sundays, but there could be multiple spread over the day. Check your local church schedule and sneak in at the end of the service.

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    2 months ago

    So many things are getting harder to justify buying these days. Definitely been going out less in general. :(