All the people trying to explain it to us isn’t helping at all. This is a stupid saying and we’re not missing out in it’s meaning. Gonna go back to doing our own thing 👋
The point of the saying is that you shouldn’t fault a thing for not being like another different thing. It’s not that you can’t do it. But you wouldn’t evaluate the quality of an orange on the same parameters you would an apple.
“This orange sucks. I can’t just bite into it and enjoy it like an apple.” That’s not a sensible assessment of the orange. That’s applying the desired attributes of an apple to an orange.
Are you confusing “can’t” and “can, but is fruitless” (pun intended)?
Like, if someone says to you “you can’t put nails in with a screwdriver”, are you going to say “You totally can. Just whack the nail with the handle. I don’t see the problem”.
Or, like, “You can’t eat crayons” do you respond “sure you can. chew it up and eat it. i don’t see the problem. it’s just like a cookie”
“With this fruit this step is mandatory and with the other it’s optional” seems like a perfectly fair comparison. If you’re going around finding fault with the fruit because of that comparison, that’s a completely separate step that is on you.
So you’re telling me neurotypical/non-autistic people are incapable of making comparisons without attaching a judgment value to them?
Like, if you had two daughters who took the same math test, you would be unable to compare how they did without finding fault with the one that “did worse”? You would actually end up loving that one less unless you could convince yourself of an excuse that makes the comparison “apples to oranges”?
How would I know what neurotypical people do? You can hardly compare me to a neurotypical person, that’s like… The phrase escapes me.
I am going to tear apart the insinuation that “it has faults” mean “I love it less.” My favourite D&D movie is the second one, which most people are unaware even exists. I can enjoy a flawed movie while recognising its flaws. Why would my love for my children be dependant on a maths test?
Also, “did worse” is objective when it comes to maths tests. You get graded, and the answers are absolute.
Think of this. One daughter gets A grades in english, but C grades in maths. The other daughter, it’s inverted. Which daughter is smarter? You can’t… Actually, you SHOULDN’T compare them. Morally.
That doesn’t make sense??
You can still peel an apple and an orange. Even that’s still a comparison
All the people trying to explain it to us isn’t helping at all. This is a stupid saying and we’re not missing out in it’s meaning. Gonna go back to doing our own thing 👋
The point of the saying is that you shouldn’t fault a thing for not being like another different thing. It’s not that you can’t do it. But you wouldn’t evaluate the quality of an orange on the same parameters you would an apple.
“This orange sucks. I can’t just bite into it and enjoy it like an apple.” That’s not a sensible assessment of the orange. That’s applying the desired attributes of an apple to an orange.
Ok but thats still a comparison??? Yes they’re different fruits and served differently, however fundamentally those are still comparisons in itself.
Are you confusing “can’t” and “can, but is fruitless” (pun intended)?
Like, if someone says to you “you can’t put nails in with a screwdriver”, are you going to say “You totally can. Just whack the nail with the handle. I don’t see the problem”.
Or, like, “You can’t eat crayons” do you respond “sure you can. chew it up and eat it. i don’t see the problem. it’s just like a cookie”
Yes, but you are comparing a serving choice to a serving requirement. It hardly seems like a fair comparison.
“With this fruit this step is mandatory and with the other it’s optional” seems like a perfectly fair comparison. If you’re going around finding fault with the fruit because of that comparison, that’s a completely separate step that is on you.
…That separate step is the entire point, though.
So you’re telling me neurotypical/non-autistic people are incapable of making comparisons without attaching a judgment value to them?
Like, if you had two daughters who took the same math test, you would be unable to compare how they did without finding fault with the one that “did worse”? You would actually end up loving that one less unless you could convince yourself of an excuse that makes the comparison “apples to oranges”?
Wow that must suck.
How would I know what neurotypical people do? You can hardly compare me to a neurotypical person, that’s like… The phrase escapes me.
I am going to tear apart the insinuation that “it has faults” mean “I love it less.” My favourite D&D movie is the second one, which most people are unaware even exists. I can enjoy a flawed movie while recognising its flaws. Why would my love for my children be dependant on a maths test?
Also, “did worse” is objective when it comes to maths tests. You get graded, and the answers are absolute.
Think of this. One daughter gets A grades in english, but C grades in maths. The other daughter, it’s inverted. Which daughter is smarter? You can’t… Actually, you SHOULDN’T compare them. Morally.