I just looked this up. Why are anti-fascists now looked at as terrorists? Isn’t it good to be against fascism? I am a little confused at this whole thing. Could someone explain in layman’s terms.
At the risk of sounding glib, but I’m completely serious, the US state is fascist. It’s not about good or bad, it’s about the state cracking down on its opposition. And it’s not just now. Opposing fascism ‘too early’ in the ww2 period before the US joined the war, say, by supporting the leftists fighting in Spain would get you targeted for repression in the purges of the 50’s we call ‘the red scare.’
Unfortunately most Americans are in an “it’s not worth it to personally sacrifice to fight fascism until it undeniably resembles Germany in the 1940s” state of laziness/apathy/cowardice/caution/self-interest.
Even those of us who are sounding the alarm bells are generally only doing that - sounding alarm bells hoping for someone else to do something.
antifacism seeks to disrupt the status quo. their messaging could be anything, national socialism wasn’t actually socialism. people don’t believe we are under fascist rule. all they see is a group of individuals seeking to disrupt the status quo and rock the boat which is analogous to terrorism. Hope you weren’t just being willfully ignorant, as understanding the mindsets of people who aren’t terminally online is important to actual change
Antifa isn’t an organization. You’re “against fascism”. That’s it. It isn’t a statement about being ‘for’ anything, that’s usually the other side of the person’s sign. Fact is, fuck fascism, details unnecessary.
I’m antifa, I’m “against fascism”.
I’m also antishootingmyselfintheface, antitakingmeth, and I’ve been antiexcessivegrassinmyyard for almost 20 years now.
I am highly disappointed in otherwise intelligent people, who I align with repeat this tired response. I never said it was an organization, I know what antifa is and isn’t, and yeah I’m antifacist but this messaging and logic tells you you didn’t really want to address my comment. I said this fails to even attempt to reach the understanding of the average US citizen. If you think like this, and aren’t just repeating the responses you’ve seen online, I don’t think you understand people, period. Acting like antifa is not a modern movement that subscribes to an ideology and is something that is just to be expected of a good member of society is why people are easily convinced of the fascists attacks on the idea under that name and enables the messaging of the movement to be handwaved or persecuted.
I’m anti-entertaining that communicating this way is common sense.
You claim to be anti fascist while still regurgitating every fascist talking point against anti-fascism.
Don’t hide behind whatever false equivalency you try and claim. Own your opinions with your whole chest and just own that you’re a fascist. I’ve seen you on this site long enough to know what you are.
I’ll skip the insults and your self-masturbation and get right to the meat, if you don’t mind.
Acting like antifa is not a modern movement that subscribes to an ideology and is something that is just to be expected of a good member of society is why people are easily convinced of the fascists attacks on the idea under that name and enables the messaging of the movement to be handwaved or persecuted.
Acting like it is makes its own motivations seem like those deemed by a collective and not individuals making their own minds to decide for themselves (and gives the ICEstapo something to target). If a large number of people see something as fascist, it doesn’t make them ‘members of antifa’, if anything, they just have a concience and common sense. What’s the old addadge. “Reality has a leftist bias?”
But that’s all we’re both doing for our own headcanons, isn’t it? ‘Acting’. Neither you or I can speak on what antifa is for everyone claiming it. It doesn’t even represent its own manifesto to question, so it feels a bit irresponsible and ego-driven to deem a purpose for it when we’re just two raindrops in antifa’s gutter, leaderless and self-enlisted.
I just looked this up. Why are anti-fascists now looked at as terrorists? Isn’t it good to be against fascism? I am a little confused at this whole thing. Could someone explain in layman’s terms.
Because the usa is a fascist state
Ew, a Reddit-style zero-effort comment.
Not if you are a fascist country.
At the risk of sounding glib, but I’m completely serious, the US state is fascist. It’s not about good or bad, it’s about the state cracking down on its opposition. And it’s not just now. Opposing fascism ‘too early’ in the ww2 period before the US joined the war, say, by supporting the leftists fighting in Spain would get you targeted for repression in the purges of the 50’s we call ‘the red scare.’
Unfortunately most Americans are in an “it’s not worth it to personally sacrifice to fight fascism until it undeniably resembles Germany in the 1940s” state of laziness/apathy/cowardice/caution/self-interest.
Even those of us who are sounding the alarm bells are generally only doing that - sounding alarm bells hoping for someone else to do something.
You see clearly.
When the government is openly facist they label anti-facists as terrorists.
Simply put, if you’re against Anti-Fascism, you might be a fascist.
antifacism seeks to disrupt the status quo. their messaging could be anything, national socialism wasn’t actually socialism. people don’t believe we are under fascist rule. all they see is a group of individuals seeking to disrupt the status quo and rock the boat which is analogous to terrorism. Hope you weren’t just being willfully ignorant, as understanding the mindsets of people who aren’t terminally online is important to actual change
Antifa isn’t an organization. You’re “against fascism”. That’s it. It isn’t a statement about being ‘for’ anything, that’s usually the other side of the person’s sign. Fact is, fuck fascism, details unnecessary.
I’m antifa, I’m “against fascism”.
I’m also antishootingmyselfintheface, antitakingmeth, and I’ve been antiexcessivegrassinmyyard for almost 20 years now.
I am highly disappointed in otherwise intelligent people, who I align with repeat this tired response. I never said it was an organization, I know what antifa is and isn’t, and yeah I’m antifacist but this messaging and logic tells you you didn’t really want to address my comment. I said this fails to even attempt to reach the understanding of the average US citizen. If you think like this, and aren’t just repeating the responses you’ve seen online, I don’t think you understand people, period. Acting like antifa is not a modern movement that subscribes to an ideology and is something that is just to be expected of a good member of society is why people are easily convinced of the fascists attacks on the idea under that name and enables the messaging of the movement to be handwaved or persecuted.
I’m anti-entertaining that communicating this way is common sense.
You claim to be anti fascist while still regurgitating every fascist talking point against anti-fascism.
Don’t hide behind whatever false equivalency you try and claim. Own your opinions with your whole chest and just own that you’re a fascist. I’ve seen you on this site long enough to know what you are.
I’ll skip the insults and your self-masturbation and get right to the meat, if you don’t mind.
Acting like it is makes its own motivations seem like those deemed by a collective and not individuals making their own minds to decide for themselves (and gives the ICEstapo something to target). If a large number of people see something as fascist, it doesn’t make them ‘members of antifa’, if anything, they just have a concience and common sense. What’s the old addadge. “Reality has a leftist bias?”
But that’s all we’re both doing for our own headcanons, isn’t it? ‘Acting’. Neither you or I can speak on what antifa is for everyone claiming it. It doesn’t even represent its own manifesto to question, so it feels a bit irresponsible and ego-driven to deem a purpose for it when we’re just two raindrops in antifa’s gutter, leaderless and self-enlisted.
Pardon me ma’am, your ignorance is showing.