No bad-faith on my part, I explained exactly what I meant by saying you linked it for me again. Again, meaning it has been linked for me many times by different people, not you in particular. This is grammatically correct, but you’re using it as a springboard to pretend I can’t speak English well or that I’m bad-faith.

I maintain that it was vague and nobody but you will ever know if that’s because you made a mistake in clear English writing or you’re arguing in bad faith like like you’ve done on other points.

The rest of your comment is just “China is good because the people in it without free speech must declare it good” and “The Uighurs are not being oppressed” which is unadulterated BS that I’m not interested in addressing, much like if someone set out to prove unicorns and leprechauns are real.

Enjoy the block, tankie!

Your point only stands if I was somehow disparaging Mandarin or Mandarin speakers/writers. To be clear: I wasn’t, and nothing’s inherently wrong with either.

But in the context of someone obviously doing mental gymnastics to defend Xi Jinping/the CCP, it’s worth noting that you’re doing it from a username that uses the same language the CCP strongly prefers to the point of oppressing people who don’t speak/write it.

You tankies love to pretend the CCP=China=Asian therefore anti-CCP=anti-Asian because it works so well on so many ignorant people and it doesn’t matter that it’s mostly bullshit. In other words, propaganda to manipulate the masses.

In closing before I block you because I’m wasting my time talking to you:

Xinnie the Pooh is not inherently a racist meme, but definitely can be used by racists to be racist. Jumping to certainty of the latter with no evidence either way is clearly pro-Xi Jinping propaganda.

Mandarin isn’t a race, nor is lemmy.ml.

Nice try, though.

I said “again” as in I had seen it before and you gave me a chance to revisit it and confirm I’m correct.

No, that would be “I’ve read the wiki page again, thanks for linking it” or even “Thanks for linking it, I read it again but I’ve read it before.” You wrote “I’ve read the wiki page, but thanks for linking it again.” Given your bad faith argument tactics elsewhere I don’t know if I’m helping you learn English or smacking you across the face with your bad faith, but take it in the spirit that you deserve.

Statesians are also wildly racist, and usually combine the two.

No. People in the US are - on average - much less racist than most corners of the world, especially including your precious China - notoriously xenophobic and currently in the process of purging their least favorite minorities like the Uighurs.

Orientalism runs deep, and as such depictions of Eastern socialism usually involve deep degrees of racial caricature. Other vile memes involve depicting Chinese people as “bugmen” and as a “hive-mind,” which combines racist views of Asians with anti-communism.

All true and all irrelevant to your accusation of Xinnie the Pooh being a racist meme.

I’m sure you know this, you’re just refusing to see it because it’s uncomfortable to admit after you defended a racist caricature.

Again: I see it just fine, it’s just not relevant to this discussion.

If I said: You are currently being racist against black people because minstrel shows, lynchings, segregation, etc. exist(ed), does that make any sense? Would accusing you of “refusing to see them” because you didn’t proactively come out against them make any sense? Of course not.

If you just learned about why Chinese people view the meme as racist, why not just change your views?

I already told you my view changed to a new, more factual position. I’m simply not leaping to the BS that you’re trying so hard to push.

You sound like you have the privilege of being white and not having to deal with racism.

I’m definitely not Asian so I definitely have the privilege of forgetting that for a lot of people yellow = Asian and Asian = yellow, that’s true.

Being anti-communist and being racist tend to have much overlap.

No, but it totally tracks that you’re pushing tankie propaganda with what looks like a Mandarin username from @lemmy.ml

I have been racially abused and heard more orientalist nonsense then you could even imagine during my brief stint on Reddit and from many people from anti-communist instances such as the one you post from.

I believe it, and that’s tragic, but it doesn’t logically follow that because some people are racist against Asians, Xinnie the Pooh must therefore be a racist meme. Again, you guys are stretching to fit your narrative.

Strange that you say I “linked it again” considering I linked it one time. Anyway,

Americans/westerners love shitting on communism; it’s generally not a racism issue. I think you know that, but you’re again doing tankie mental gymnastics to defend Xi Jinping/the CCP.

Is it possible some people use it for racist reasons? Absolutely.

I just don’t think it’s that deep for the vast majority of people who use the meme. I certainly wouldn’t go so far as to say the use of it at all is inherently racist as you did and continue to do.

Signed,

Someone who thinks the meme is funny because it pisses off tankies and literally never made the potential racism connection that Winnie the Pooh had yellow fur until today.

Considering the meme originates in China, no.

Frankly, I think it’s either mental gymnastics from tankies to defend Xi Jinping or someone arriving late to the Xinnie the Pooh meme and assuming it has its origins in yellow = Chinese, Chinese = Xi Jinping.

Here’s some reading on the topic I just did to confirm I had it right and you had it wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China#Comparisons_between_Xi_Jinping_and_Winnie-the-Pooh

Unfortunately most Americans are in an “it’s not worth it to personally sacrifice to fight fascism until it undeniably resembles Germany in the 1940s” state of laziness/apathy/cowardice/caution/self-interest.

Even those of us who are sounding the alarm bells are generally only doing that - sounding alarm bells hoping for someone else to do something.

Ew, a Reddit-style zero-effort comment.

How is it racist?

It’s definitely a Whataboutism but… I don’t see any racism here.