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    Really pissed because about a year ago in february it upgraded without my informed consent and I never noticed until something else bad happened. You can only downgrade if you notice within a week.

    It’s real fuckin insidious, I had already reformatted my PC once too recently so I juuuust kinda toughed it out.

    Anyways, they keep everything same-ish which prevents you from noticing they changed your whole OS which should be illegal.

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    The fact that pressing spacebar during boot can accidentally upgrade your OS tells you everything about Microsoft’s current priorities.

    I accidentally “upgraded” a test machine by hitting Enter during a BIOS update prompt. The machine rebooted into Windows 11 setup, which then took 45 minutes and required a Microsoft account (or knowledge of the OOBE\BYPASSNRO trick).

    If you want to block the upgrade permanently:

    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate" /v TargetReleaseVersion /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate" /v TargetReleaseVersionInfo /t REG_SZ /d "22H2" /f
    

    Or just install Linux and never worry about it again.

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    ITT: people giving unasked for advice to a comic on a comedic community because they simply cannot help themselves.

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    Downgrade your PC to avoid having this issue. Follow me for more terrible tech tips you should never have to do in the first place.

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    I have to use it, it’s the corporate setup. Every day I envy plumbers who unclog toilets.

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      Or, windows 11 doesnt support my system. Not my problem.

      Its actually interesting how they phrased it so that our systems are the problem and not their product.

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    My boss at work told it to download thinking that he would have a choice to install in when he wanted. Now he understands what a virus is.

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    You can rollback easily. I’ve upgraded to Windows 11 a while ago and after 48 hours, I rolled back to 10. But this is how I will feel like in October.

    And no, Linux is NOT an option for me, at least for my main PC. My laptop gets Linux, as there I don’t do stuff, that isn’t running under Linux. But I still hope that Microslop does something good and fix their shit.

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        In my case, my GPU (Nvidia 1060 something) has problems with Linux, games don’t run as well as on Windows by a huge margin.

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          Odd, I’ve found that anything 970 or newer has good support.

          1060 may be some weird exception. But I have found the same issues with a gtx 670, badly implemented drivers from nvidia and the open source one can’t even properly render. But it’s a 12y old card or something, so I’m not really surprised.

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        Not OP, and i main linux on all fronts, but still have to have a few windows machines around:

        There are still some viable gaming reasons, There’s still software like blue iris and corporate crap (Outlook, Office and you need to collaborate with office users). There are Adobe products, Autodesk products.

        You can try to play swapsies with things here and there, but sometimes it’s more work than it’s worth and sometimes you’re straight up not allowed to swap.

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        First would be programming and second gaming. Not all my games I own, do work with ProtonDB and with programming, well parts we use, don’t work with Linux. We tried. Its probably just figuring out the right settings but spending several hours tweaking everything, in the hope to get it properly running, isn’t worth it, when it all runs on Windows out of the box.

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          I’m surprised you’ve managed to find a way to program that doesn’t work far better on Linux than on Windows. I ended up having to use WSL at work because Windows was so obnoxious (and they don’t allow anything else on the intranet).

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            Yes, the software I use is heavily connected within Windows. Old versions where developed for MacOS and Linux, but they dumped that for quite some time. They even use sub .NET5 as framework. Even our customers are pissed with Windows 11, as they now all upgrade or already upgraded. For SSL key stuff, I do use WSL as well, as I couldn’t really got it working under Windows.

            When you really want to know what pain is, try working with their admin panels. I did learn some basic Windows Server stuff but their admin panels… all Windows OSes are childs play. I would rather use Windows 8 (not 8.1) or Vista, as this shit. And the joke is, we don’t use the complicated stuff. Office, Visual Studio and Teams (well we do need some meeting software and if we have Teams, why not using it?). Office is a requirement, as our document/archive/CMS system only has an plugin for Word under Windows. We tried switching, but outside the IT department, no one, even the CEO, took some time to test alternatives, that they feel comfortable to use. For building our software, I actually want to look if there is a better solution but no time and a massive backlog. We need to argue a lot with our CEO, when we mention we change some of the operation stuff.

            But hey, there is some good things. I convinced the company to use a Linux Server for some stuff. Inside the IT, we can and do switch stuff, when it benefits our workflow but outside, nobody is interested, even though it could make stuff so much easier. We did installed a test system and gave everyone access but nobody tested it.

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      I dual boot windows because of a few things that don’t matter too much to me, and i haven’t really figured out wine as much as i should. Anyway, i booted up windows again after like 5 months. I hated every second of it, but overall, nothing of note happened. The next day, i had to boot windows again, and when i shut it down, it gave me the option to update and reboot or update and shut down, nothing else. I should’ve just unplugged my pc, but I updated and shut it down and left my room. When i came back a few hours later, my pc was stuck in a reboot loop and i couldn’t really boot anything. Just fuck everything about windows.

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        If you dual boot, you need to keep the windows partition on a separate disk, otherwise it will most likely fuck your boot partition.

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          Honestly disconnect all other disks when installing it too. Otherwise you move your Linux disk to another computer and Windows might not boot because it decided to use the efi partition on your Linux disk

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            In 20 years of using Linux, I’ve only had a broken Linux four times. Four of those times, it was because of Windows being shit.

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    Pro tip: If you must use Windows, pick Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021. Most things still run on it, and that baby’s got no user-facing slop and five more years of support in it. Mass Grave dot dev.

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      I put Windows 11 on it’s own hard drive, so it couldn’t corrupt the rest of the system.

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        I’m a Linux user but not everyone has that privilege.

        I just want everyone to have an OS that works for them, and I’m getting kinda tired of that being a hot take.

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          I can understand that point. But putting more effort into making windows half normal and kinda usable seems like wasting time, Its an uphill battle that you are loosing anyway at some point.

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            Sometimes linux is just not possible with the hardware :(

            I tried my best, but neither my SP7’s touch screen or pen functionality work properly with linux (even with the linux-surface-kernel). And there’s still no good alternatives for SPs in the market either, for tablet+computer+works properly for art (at least any I could ever afford)

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              The Framework 12 actually seems really ideal for this, being that it has a 360 degree hinge and works properly with Linux.

              It’s also expensive as fuck, but then, you can repair and upgrade it, and I’ve heard Surface tablets are an absolutely miserable experience to try repairing. So up to you if the upfront cost is worth less pain down the road.

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                Still not there for art, sadly. For example their pen has only half of the pressure sensitivity SPs better pens have :(

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                I don’t think the pen input sensitivity/features on it is suitable for pro-level artists, but I might be wrong.

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          I like you.

          I’m as much a nerd as the next, but I also play a lot of different games, with a lot of different people on different platforms, and that’s not feasible (yet) on anything other than windows.

          I hate it, but it is what it is.

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      +1 massgrave. Got the extended support for my regular W10 pro. After that, it’s going to be debian if - fingers crossed - nothing breaks. It’s a 6700K build.

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      My son tried it after avoiding Linux for months. He didn’t like Zorin and eventually settled on CachyOS.

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      I installed Zorin on a second hand thinkcentre yesterday to test out, and I really like it. I use Mint on my laptop, and I’m pretty satisfied with that. I’m evaluating both of them as a permanent replacement for windows 11 on my main PC and it’s down to those two.