The guy went on a lobbying trip to DC and was heard by GOP folks and not dems. So what? That’s all we know. Were dems busy that day? Did he try a different approach when he talked to the right. Anyone can go to DC and be heard or ignored on a lobbying trip.
Also, the content creator of the video was not vetted for sponsorship because they don’t usually do that. They admitted fault and are changing procedures to appropriately vet moving forward. I think their marketing team might even be external. Also, fascists never admit fault or accept accountability.
This sounds like big tech doesn’t want competition. You’ve seen google prevent side loading, and do a ton of shady things at this point. Why not a smear campaign too?
Thus guy might be a raging fascist dickhead for all I know. I’m just pointing out that the supposed evidence falls short and proves nothing.
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Concerns I see are that Proton encourages you to import spam from your last account
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They were lobbying in the US (there are good reasons to do that though)
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They send your gmail notifications that you have new Proton emails along with details of that email if you use your old gmail as a recovery while transitioning - just use a different recovery email
None of those actual concerns have anything to do with far right ideologies.
Heat on proton?
Whatever, leaves me cold.
It’s possible but it’s more likely that the proton people were actually right place right time to catch lightning in a bottle and keep fucking up because they’re stupid and didn’t plan for it.
It doesn’t hurt that people who supposedly care about anonymity, security and privacy actually care about if they’re buying from someone they disagree with or get scoffed at online for using protons services.
I do think that they are perfectly capable of smear campaign, but you have to acknowledge that oss privacy community people are very critical and fast to point out any potential risks and thus label the whole service as bad. Rightfully so most of the time. We are the first to call out a privacy focused company. There is no need to call out gmail, anyone who cares already knows.
Proton’s systems are built on proprietary software. I don’t trust them.
Proton Mail is operated by Proton AG, which is a for-profit corporation.
That being said, even though Proton Mails is probably more trustworthy than Google and Microsoft services, it’s still handled by a for-profit corporation, and can’t be fully trusted.
Nowadays, if something is owned by a corp and operates for profit, I wouldn’t recommend anyone to get too attached to it. Use it while you feel it’s worth, but expect to change for something else in the future if needed. In other words: don’t ever fully trust your data to company owned software, and always look for a backup solution.
This reads like it should have been a youtube comment on a specific video.
From The Intercept 2025, CEO Andy Yen made these posts on X:
“10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.”
“Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”
Protonmail has been pro-trump strictly for its own economic interests. Its definitely believable that they would endorse right-wing media figures in its own economic interests.
This doesn’t mean you should go back to google. That’s silly. Just know that Protonmail or any corporation isn’t a long term solution. They aren’t immune to enshittification. And all businesses inherently have political interests. The only long term solution is open source and self hosted.
This is a privacy community, not a place for corpo-shit drama posts.
Proton is (or was) often recommended as a privacy-respecting email provider, so discussing whether or not to use Proton seems on-topic.
It’s not the subject of the post though, OP is sharing their conspiracy theory related to a privacy app
Where is OP telling a conspiracy?
This sounds like big tech doesn’t want competition. You’ve seen google prevent side loading, and do a ton of shady things at this point. Why not a smear campaign too?
Smear campaign or hyperbolic criticism? It’s the age of outrage after all. But I also think Proton should be doing way better in general and are not above criticism.
“The guy”? What?
clearly a spy kids 3 reference /s
jesus christ, it’s a fucking company, of course in one way or the other is going to root for some fucking nazi, what did y’all expected from them? they were the ones that started doing pr for the whole cia backed psyop in hong kong a few year back.
You’ve seen google prevent side loading, and do a ton of shady things at this point. Why not a smear campaign too?
I have heard 1000x more about those than I’ve heard about this Proton issue, so I don’t think that point is valid. This is thread is actually the first I’m hearing of any lobbying trip.
Also, people specifically choosing products for political/ethical/moral reasons are naturally going to be more sensitive to political/ethical/moral failings.
The accurate term is “installing”, not sideloading. Sideloading is a term used to make people think installing the software of your choice is something “shady” and not normal.
Exactly
Pretty much the conclusion I came to.
