• zephiriz@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    I’m confused by the comment? Putin is trying to colonize Ukraine. Putin mad because they had a free election to elect the person who is holding his own against an ageing wana be world power in a war going on for years that was supposed to be over in days. Also Putin rig’s his own elections so him demanding is bit well, fix your own shit before you fix someone else. Oh wait Putin does fix his own elections.

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      4 hours ago

      You’re overthinking it, my comment was purely about the picture you posted

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      7 hours ago

      The Russian Federation is not trying to colonize Ukraine. Their goal is NATO neutrality, and annexation of the four oblasts, which are largely pro-Russian. This is a response to the ethnic repressions against Russians in the Donbass following the coup of Yanukovych in 2014, and the ensuing secession of Donetsk and Luhansk and the civil war that followed.

      The war was never supposed to be over in days. This was circulated as a means to humiliate Russia, but all talks of an attack lasting days either came from many years before 2022, or from the west.

      As for Putin rigging elections, this might be true, but we also know that he is legitimately popular in Russia. The nationalists are most popular, followed by the communists. The pro-western liberals like Navalny was are in the minority and have no real support base.

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        3 hours ago

        This goes against my current view of the situation. The NATO expansion is somewhat understandable, not enough for a war perhaps, but unsure.

        Care to point me in the direction to read more about this?

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            10 minutes ago

            Thanks, exactly what I was looking for! 😄 As a Norwegian pretty much everyone sides with Ukraine, and I have not really challenged that view for myself. I have just accepted the narrative “Russia = imperialistic & bad. Ukraine = democracy & good”. So it’s probably a good idea to try to understand it

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              3 minutes ago

              Understandable! It’s one of the more difficult topics for westerners like us to grasp, and it took me some time to come around to the ML consensus on the Russian Federation (ie, it isn’t imperialist if we accept Lenin’s analysis, and actually is anti imperialist even if run by bourgeois oligarchs).

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        4 hours ago

        Wow, it’s like I’m on reddit all over again. Propaganda hits hard.

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            34 minutes ago

            I said the absolute contrary. There’s nothing communist about Russia nowadays. It’s as capitalist as it gets.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              25 minutes ago

              Of course Russia is no longer socialist. My point is that what I said is the standard communist stance on the Russian Federation, that of critical support.