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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago

You may not like it, but this is what peak democracy looks like

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You may not like it, but this is what peak democracy looks like

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago
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    6 hours ago

    What war crimes has Ukraine commited?

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      From the thread I linked elsewhere:

      • https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/40th-periodic-report-human-rights-situation-ukraine-treatment-prisoners
      • https://www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152743054/human-rights-watch-ukraine-landmines
      • CNN coverage of Donbas in 2014 https://xcancel.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296
      • UN finds no genocide https://news.yahoo.com/un-commission-fails-evidence-russias-160057021.html
      • https://mronline.org/2023/07/30/russia-donbass-and-the-reality-of-the-conflict-in-ukraine/
      • Stoltenberg admits NATO was in Ukraine since 2014 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_211698.htm
      • https://www.kanekoa.news/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-started
      • HRW https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions
      • Donbas documentary 2016 https://youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs
      • clip from the doc https://odysee.com/@justsomeclips:2/trade-union-burning-2014:8
      • Ukraine in Donbas https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2022/08/10/what-ive-seen-of-ukraines-war-crimes-against-civilians-in-the-donbass-over-the-years/
      • https://thegrayzone.com/2023/09/06/ukraines-arms-supplier-maidan-massacre/
      • Poroshenko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk

      Essentially, killing civilians, torturing prisoners, shelling civilian areas, similar tactics to the IDF with respect to the Donbass.

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        5 hours ago

        Yes, let’s go decade ago to fish something out.

        Meanwhile Russia is commiting tens of thousands of them in this conflict alone.

        Fuck off.

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          5 hours ago

          The war has been going on for over a decade, history didn’t start in 2022. Ukraine is regularly shelling civilian populations, just the other day they murdered a dozen teenage girls in a shelling attack.

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            Deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, never admitting for a second that Russia is doing attrocities.

            Get lost.

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              4 hours ago

              How does it feel to know that Ukraine is pretty much over. The demographic collapse alone will end the country entirely.

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              4 hours ago

              Russia has committed war crimes, I never said otherwise. You asked for evidence of Ukraine committing war crimes, and I gave that evidence. I also explained that treating war crimes like a measuring stick is horribly reductive, you’ve deflected beyond the central question of self determination for the Donbass region.

              I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong here. Caping for neofascists like you’re doing isn’t received well here.

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