Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn’t actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some “AI magic”, I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or “nice feature actually”, “what about the camera on your laptop?”, “you are way too paranoid”, “I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded”.

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn’t really find any information about it on the internet.

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    In many states any information not disclosed by the seller is grounds for you canceling the deal. But you would have to look that up for where you live. Or there’s black tape, but then you’re still paying for a camera you didn’t want, aren’t using, and weren’t told about.

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    3 hours ago

    Some of these dorks out here would fr be supportive of a “smart” camera in thdr toilet looking straight at their hole/s. “I have nothing to hide, its just videos of me pooping”

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    3 hours ago

    Honestly I only think it’s fair, to also have the driver be subject to surveillance, when they knowingly expose others to the car’s exterior cameras.

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      2 hours ago

      The car complains when the camera is covered. At a minimum that means making annoying sounds every time you drive anywhere, at worst the car doesn’t let you drive. You can’t just dismiss this, it’s going to happen more and more, and they will be increasingly hostile to your workarounds.

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      3 hours ago

      My car has profiles for seat position, mirror position, radio settings etc but it’s just Driver 1 and Driver 2 and you select with a button.

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        2 hours ago

        You’re basically trying to convince a medieval peasant that your so-called “antibiotic” potion can cure their disease but is definitely not witchcraft. Good luck wit dat!

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      3 hours ago

      You don’t login, the car recognises you and adjusts settings such as the seat position to the way you like to have it without you having to do it manually, it’s a convenience thing.

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        3 hours ago

        I have a 2019 Edge that has preset seat settings. They’re on buttons on the door where you can set your seat configuration up with the seat adjustments and such, hold down the button 1, 2, or 3 to save it, and when you turn the car off it shifts to default. So when you get into the car, push your number and it just adjusts everything for you.

        It does not need to scan your face or identify you in any way. It’s a button next to the door unlock.

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    4 hours ago

    “what about the camera on your laptop?”

    My personal laptop does not have a camera, and my work laptop has a physical camera blocker.

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    4 hours ago

    I mean I would like a dashcam that records front, my face and out the rear window. But it has to be under MY control.

    I’d never buy a car with a camera I can’t control. No doubt they’ll soon turn it into some subscription shit or spy on you.

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      2 hours ago

      I do find this attitude interesting. You don’t want yourself to be recorded, but you’ll happily record random pedestrians without their knowledge or consent.

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    5 hours ago

    Wait till the 2027 gets the seat rectal probe to verify you by your large intestine. Also, they sell the data to health insurance providers.