• fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 hours ago

    going to get on my soapbox about X for a moment for two things

    1. people who say “twitter is the only time i’ll deadname something”, like it’s a statement that fucking matters at anyone at all, when i don’t want deadnaming to EVER be something we’re treating as OK

    2. calling X “twitter” is just cope for people who can’t move off the fucking app and want to pretend like musk didn’t successfully take it over, ruin it, and turn it into a nazi child porn site. call it the shit garbage app that it is, the thing you liked called “twitter” is dead

    not directed at anyone in particular or you, OP, just wanted to get this off my chest

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      3 hours ago

      If a trans person says or does something morally wrong I do not ever attempt to “punish” them with deadnaming or misgendering. However, I consider Twitter.com neither transgender nor person. I’m not causing any harm whatsoever. Sorry to offend you, but Elon Musk didn’t invent anything, “X” is just him buying Twitter and loading it up with Nazi Pedophiles., and to further twist the knife, he didn’t invent electric cars, he didn’t perfect space travel, he hasn’t “solved traffic”, he’s not even earned his own video game achievements.

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        2 hours ago

        i feel like we’re in agreement, except for the conclusion we arrived at about it

        i just don’t like it when people act like saying (literally) “i will deadname twitter” will hurt twitter more than the trans people who might have actually been deadnamed. i think it’s a waste to trigger them to act like calling x “twitter” is a slur or smth

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          2 hours ago

          I mean that’s only true for people who actually see it as deadnaming, which it isn’t. As I said before the point isn’t actually “Deadnaming is okay in this instance” but “This app is literally just Twitter.” Elon and supporters have called that deadnaming as some sort of gotcha and nobody argues that it isn’t because it’s not like he’s actually opposing deadnaming he dislikes the observation that he hasn’t built anything.

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            okay, sure, but i am a trans person and i have independently concluded that i don’t think it’s cool. sure “it’s only deadnaming if you think it’s literally is the thing we’re calling it”, but the human brain doesn’t work like that; if someone has a strong enough response to it (e.g. they suffered trauma from being deadnamed), then they’re going to have that response before they go “oh actually they don’t mean it because it’s directed at a corp”. i don’t think “dunking on elon musk, who has plenty of other shit to dunk on” is really worth doing that to somebody

            (idk why you keep bringing up he didn’t build anything? i know? you don’t need to use the word “deadname” to make that point?)

            and i’m too lazy to check every room i’m in and be like, “hey, is casually pretending like we’re doing this evil shitty thing (that’s actually justified bc we’re dunking on a shithead!!) going to be a trigger for you?” (which, honestly, would still be better than just assuming it’s fine)

            (if it’s not clear, my issue is more with people who literally use the phrase “i’m going to deadname twitter” or “the only time it’s OK to deadname something is twitter” or whatever)

            it’s like… look, there’s a reason we put actual deadnaming content behind a content warning. i’m basically treating it the same way, because even if it is not the literal act of deadnaming a real person, it’s still pretending that something traumatic and evil is a cool and normal thing to do, which i do not fuck with, even in jest

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      4 hours ago
      1. people who say “twitter is the only time i’ll deadname something”

      This is definitely a ridiculous statement from the jump, but there’s no relation to deadnaming at all. Trying to make a comparison between Chicagoans calling it the Sears Tower with the harm deadnaming a person causes is insane. Despite what Mitt Romney and a large portion of US law says, corporations aren’t people.

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        2 hours ago

        i’m not equating the two, i just don’t think it’s worth triggering trans people who have actually been hurt by deadnaming, just to flex on a faceless piece of shit corporation that does not care and is not hurt by it

        (to be clear, this is more about using the literal phrase “i will deadname twitter” than calling x “twitter” itself; for that, see my second point)

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    14 hours ago

    The fact that anyone who matters still uses that site just highlights abject failure of other companies to produce a satisfactory replacement. They’ve had years. With all their money and experience with social media, how has Meta failed to make Threads comparable to the old Twitter?

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      Market pressures are very different than they were when social media first took off. People want to be where their friends already are now. Back then, they would bring their friends to platforms.

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      11 hours ago

      is it really that all the alternatives are worse than twitter? i never used twitter but mastodon/miskey seem pretty feature rich, especially with the right client. i assumed that the reason so many people did not switch is network effect and unwillingness to change habits

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        4 hours ago

        I’ve heard that for people who used Twitter as a news feed, Threads’ and Buesky’s algorithms just aren’t as good.

        I’m sure inertia also has a lot to do with it, as you said.

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        12 hours ago

        so its just a … platform wit people on it. i think that just happens.

        maybe im missing something, but groups are bound to happen on sites where everyone can go to and yap.

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          12 hours ago

          Let’s say you own a bar. It’s definitely not a nazi bar, but you also don’t ask nazis to leave if they show up. The nazis who get kicked out of other bars naturally end up at your bar. Normal customers stop going to your bar because the nazis make them uncomfortable, meanwhile the nazis invite their friends and word gets out that nazis are welcome there. Congratulations, you now own a nazi bar.

          You’ll notice blahaj Lemmy doesn’t have a nazi problem because, unlike Twitter, they don’t tolerate nazi bullshit.