If a trans person says or does something morally wrong I do not ever attempt to “punish” them with deadnaming or misgendering. However, I consider Twitter.com neither transgender nor person. I’m not causing any harm whatsoever. Sorry to offend you, but Elon Musk didn’t invent anything, “X” is just him buying Twitter and loading it up with Nazi Pedophiles., and to further twist the knife, he didn’t invent electric cars, he didn’t perfect space travel, he hasn’t “solved traffic”, he’s not even earned his own video game achievements.
i feel like we’re in agreement, except for the conclusion we arrived at about it
i just don’t like it when people act like saying (literally) “i will deadname twitter” will hurt twitter more than the trans people who might have actually been deadnamed. i think it’s a waste to trigger them to act like calling x “twitter” is a slur or smth
I mean that’s only true for people who actually see it as deadnaming, which it isn’t. As I said before the point isn’t actually “Deadnaming is okay in this instance” but “This app is literally just Twitter.” Elon and supporters have called that deadnaming as some sort of gotcha and nobody argues that it isn’t because it’s not like he’s actually opposing deadnaming he dislikes the observation that he hasn’t built anything.
okay, sure, but i am a trans person and i have independently concluded that i don’t think it’s cool. sure “it’s only deadnaming if you think it’s literally is the thing we’re calling it”, but the human brain doesn’t work like that; if someone has a strong enough response to it (e.g. they suffered trauma from being deadnamed), then they’re going to have that response before they go “oh actually they don’t mean it because it’s directed at a corp”. i don’t think “dunking on elon musk, who has plenty of other shit to dunk on” is really worth doing that to somebody
(idk why you keep bringing up he didn’t build anything? i know? you don’t need to use the word “deadname” to make that point?)
and i’m too lazy to check every room i’m in and be like, “hey, is casually pretending like we’re doing this evil shitty thing (that’s actually justified bc we’re dunking on a shithead!!) going to be a trigger for you?” (which, honestly, would still be better than just assuming it’s fine)
(if it’s not clear, my issue is more with people who literally use the phrase “i’m going to deadname twitter” or “the only time it’s OK to deadname something is twitter” or whatever)
it’s like… look, there’s a reason we put actual deadnaming content behind a content warning. i’m basically treating it the same way, because even if it is not the literal act of deadnaming a real person, it’s still pretending that something traumatic and evil is a cool and normal thing to do, which i do not fuck with, even in jest
If a trans person says or does something morally wrong I do not ever attempt to “punish” them with deadnaming or misgendering. However, I consider Twitter.com neither transgender nor person. I’m not causing any harm whatsoever. Sorry to offend you, but Elon Musk didn’t invent anything, “X” is just him buying Twitter and loading it up with Nazi Pedophiles., and to further twist the knife, he didn’t invent electric cars, he didn’t perfect space travel, he hasn’t “solved traffic”, he’s not even earned his own video game achievements.
i feel like we’re in agreement, except for the conclusion we arrived at about it
i just don’t like it when people act like saying (literally) “i will deadname twitter” will hurt twitter more than the trans people who might have actually been deadnamed. i think it’s a waste to trigger them to act like calling x “twitter” is a slur or smth
I mean that’s only true for people who actually see it as deadnaming, which it isn’t. As I said before the point isn’t actually “Deadnaming is okay in this instance” but “This app is literally just Twitter.” Elon and supporters have called that deadnaming as some sort of gotcha and nobody argues that it isn’t because it’s not like he’s actually opposing deadnaming he dislikes the observation that he hasn’t built anything.
okay, sure, but i am a trans person and i have independently concluded that i don’t think it’s cool. sure “it’s only deadnaming if you think it’s literally is the thing we’re calling it”, but the human brain doesn’t work like that; if someone has a strong enough response to it (e.g. they suffered trauma from being deadnamed), then they’re going to have that response before they go “oh actually they don’t mean it because it’s directed at a corp”. i don’t think “dunking on elon musk, who has plenty of other shit to dunk on” is really worth doing that to somebody
(idk why you keep bringing up he didn’t build anything? i know? you don’t need to use the word “deadname” to make that point?)
and i’m too lazy to check every room i’m in and be like, “hey, is casually pretending like we’re doing this evil shitty thing (that’s actually justified bc we’re dunking on a shithead!!) going to be a trigger for you?” (which, honestly, would still be better than just assuming it’s fine)
(if it’s not clear, my issue is more with people who literally use the phrase “i’m going to deadname twitter” or “the only time it’s OK to deadname something is twitter” or whatever)
it’s like… look, there’s a reason we put actual deadnaming content behind a content warning. i’m basically treating it the same way, because even if it is not the literal act of deadnaming a real person, it’s still pretending that something traumatic and evil is a cool and normal thing to do, which i do not fuck with, even in jest