In the latest episode of “they will always sell you out” - they sold you out! Who would’ve thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can’t exist without “leeching” off of Bitwarden.

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    5 hours ago

    KeePass isn’t going anywhere. They’re also dragging their feet on passkey support, so you might go with KeepassXC.

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        3 hours ago

        Two articles behind a paywall, one that won’t load, and another article that says the big problem with passkeys is…people are unfamiliar with them.

        If anyone tells you that Passkeys are bad, they’re a liar. Way more safe than passwords, full stop.

        Just don’t let Microsoft or Apple tie them to your device. You don’t have to do that.

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      5 hours ago

      They also don’t effectively allow collaboration though, which is my cheif reason for using a cloud hosted password manager.

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        3 hours ago

        Sure they do. Multiple people can have a file open at the same time. I use it for exactly this every day at work.

        With KeePassXC, that is. I don’t know if other flavors have different support. I use XC primarily for the browser extension.

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          2 hours ago

          And you can both modify the same things without causing horrible conflict issues? And you can share only parts of your vault with someone rather than having entirely different vaults you have to switch between? I’m assuming you mean putting the file somewhere like Google Drive, and you can access it offline even if you can’t edit it offline? For feature parity with Bitwarden, obviously ideally one could edit any time and it would resolve problems when it came back online if there were any but Bitwarden doesn’t allow this.

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            2 hours ago

            Yes, no conflicts. I don’t know if you can only share part of vault; I just created a separate one for a separate team.

            I wouldn’t put it in Google Drive or anything like that. The separate sync logic will definitely cause conflicts.

            I’m not worried about having access if I’m offline, because if I’m offline I’m not going to be able to log into anything anyway.

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              2 hours ago

              I guess a laptop, server, IoT device, or WiFi connection when your main device doesn’t have internet is out of scope for you?
              Like fixing my laptop and not wanting to type the new password into my phone instead of copy/paste, sync when online?
              And how are you sharing a file, to multiple people anywhere in the world realtime ish, without a cloud service you or someone else hosts? Doesn’t that necessitate some syncronization logic?

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          2 hours ago

          Sharing passwords between groups of people so everyone always has the up to date version. Not breaking the world if two people try to modify the same entry as some file syncing solutions do.