In the latest episode of “they will always sell you out” - they sold you out! Who would’ve thought.
Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can’t exist without “leeching” off of Bitwarden.
I’m going to have to just write my own one of these fucking things aren’t I?
Goddammit. Why can’t we have nice things?
i was just thinking this week with the passphrase addition how good bitwarden is and when will the other shoe drop. There it is.
All hail the new Chief Enshittification Officer!
They all want all of the poor people dead. They are wagging war on us.
Keep ass what though? /s
why this over keepassxc?
For once ADHD preventing me from completing a migration is a boon, I guess I’ll move back to keepass
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Fuck
Once again, enshittification by the fucking suits.
Early on I decided to use only KeePass for full personal control instead of an online service. Didn’t regret making that decision.
Vaultwarden here I come
I hate to break the news but the issue with Bitwarden is that the client sucks total ass, and there are no drop in 3rd party replacements for the browser plugin.
Been running Vaultwarden for a while now and even though the sync implementation is nice and clean, it’s just not worth the end user experience.
This is really dumb when compared to literally every other password manager, open source and enterprise which does a much better job of actually being a password manager and not a glorified encrypted text file.
I’m eventually going to switch back to KeePassXC and just suggest setting a master password with Firefox’s builtin password manager for everyone else who just wants a painless user experience and not have to deal with syncing vaults.
No, KeePass. Fully open source, no cloud involved in any way, unless you want something to sync your data (the server only ever sees your encrypted database - all encryption and decryption is done locally). You can also host your own sync server using any of a variety of different protocols.
Yep. Seconding this!
KeePass + Syncthing is the best.
Back up the database(s) regularly. (Syncthing can also retain
xnumber of versions and things like that, but also do your own 3-2-1 backups.)You can use something as simple as a Pi, or an old laptop, or even an old phone if you get creative, as an always-on syncthing server to keep them synchronized. KeePassXC even has a fancy integration with Firefox, so all you gotta do is unlock your database and click autofill on websites.
Yup, been doing this combo for 5-6 years now.
I use KeePassXC on desktop and KeePassDX on Android. No issues whatsoever.
I do have a NAS so that’s my “always on” device for Syncthing. Everything syncs up within like 10-15 seconds when a device connects.
I also use a key file as a pseudo 2FA that I keep on a flash drive, so you’d need my master password and my key file to unlock the database.
I use KeePass + KeeAnywhere. KeeAnywhere will sync with a wide variety of cloud storage providers. Or your own S3 data bucket server (can be self hosted or on Amazon), if you prefer. Does pretty much the same thing though with versioning. Auto filling in Firefox is done with KeePassHttp-connector on the Firefox side and the KeePassHTTP plugin in KeePass. Similar to what you describe.
Ok thanks for the heads up
Move to KeePassXC or its recent LLM-free fork while you still can, because at some point Bitwarden is going to try to go closed-source again.
Oh crap, how’s KeePass got an LLM involved‽ Time to look into this now…
I did find https://codeberg.org/ChiPass/ChiPass , but it looks like a very new project.
…actually seems quite reasonable.
very much so.
Ah shit. Here we go again!
Can anyone say “Enshittification”!
Enshitification coming right up!
No one is being “sold out” lol. Anyone using the free tier has had a great run with an amazing service without posting a cent. Can’t complain about that.
I already pay for Bitwarden as it’s a great service that brings a lot of value. I’m happy to pay for it, and have zero anger at a company wanting to make money from their product.
Others might disagree, but companies can’t exist without making money. It’s insane that there are somehow still people that don’t understand how business works.
My work just started giving out 6 sponsored family licenses per employee which is awesome, so I’ll actually get to stop paying for it for a while.
Buddy, I don’t know if you’ve been living under a rock but everything a venture capitalist touches is enshittifying. You think any of these companies you’re reading headlines about are suffering to keep their doors open? When google locks down android or X starts including ads in Grok they’re doing it to keep the lights on? You think if Bitwarden started cutting free services and charging more the average employee is going to get a proportional raise to the new profits?
No. We’re not upset because we dont understand that a company needs to make money. We’re upset because we have basic pattern recognition skills and we understand the nature of late stage capitalism on wealth inequality (at least intuitively). This (likely) isn’t some smart business person coming in to balance the books, this is (likely) some rich asshole whose job is to kill the golden goose and sell it for parts before anyone catches on that you need it alive to produce eggs.
Glad I started using Vaultwarden a while back. Just need to find better apps for android and Firefox I guess because I’m guessing they’re going to try to break compatibility.
vauktwarden needs bitwarden though
