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  • Bob Robertson IX @discuss.tchncs.de
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    And this is why iOS gets progressive web apps from me. It isn’t that I can’t afford $100, it’s more fuck Apple for demanding tribute from my work.

    • furry toaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I instead label iOS as simply unsupported

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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      If you make them with graceful degradation. Most toolkits/frameworks don’t. Else, simply make your webapp a webpage, please.

  • Bonje@lemmy.world
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    If people want your app on ios then set up a donnorbox or something.

    • Gork@sopuli.xyz
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      Will a döner box do?

      • coalie@piefed.zip
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        How about a dick in a box?

        • anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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          That comes in the Donner Party box

      • Linsensuppe@feddit.org
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        Jetzt hab ich Hunger

  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    more than that; you need to build on a ios machine, so every few years you have to buy a mac mini or some shit just to run xcode to compile the app. at least the last time I released an app across both stores that’s where we were (8 years ago).

    • Steve@startrek.website
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      Cloud bro

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        not really wild about it. but, fortunately has not been a problem since ignoring the iOS market lol.

      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Not that great

        We have that problem at work. There’s basically just a single hoster that provides mac machines with CI pipeline integration. And it’s janky as fuck

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    Luckily google would never do the same to android /s

    https://keepandroidopen.org/

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      Honestly, that’s great, but you might as well cut to the chase and switch ROMs as well. Google isn’t going to budge.

      • HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        To postmarketos preferably

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          If you don’t care about installing any particular mobile software, that would work.

          LineageOS is the current game in town otherwise, unless you want a Pixel, in which case there’s options like GrapheneOS.

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            I mean, to some extent: waydroid actually works quite well, if you don’t mind their security issues, a few apps also work with android translation layer. My main troubles are actually with virtual keyboards: there’s nothing as good as heliboard so far, although the new plasma keyboard with custom layouts is usable

            • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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              Interesting. I’ve tried Linux phones, they’re not a bad idea per se. It looks like Waydroid is literally just emulating LineageOS, though, so I do start to wonder what the point is.

              I suppose one advantage would be you can actually hack your system a bit, instead of having everything locked into the ROM.

    • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      Its still cheaper to publish on the play store (one time fee of $25), and iirc apks would still be installable with adb anyway.

      Still a shitty thing to do

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        One time fee sure, and then they close your account for not pushing updates frequently enough…

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          Give them a pseudo update

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            It’s just not worth the effort. You’ll find out they have change their policies on something, and you’ll have to fix your app to suit. It’s an endless churn of busywork

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              and they started requiring government id in the us

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                My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the ID requirements aren’t entirely their fault. Know Your Customer laws have started requiring things like IDs, so it’s likely that lawmakers are to blame for that gripe.

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                  even in the EU? that’s a bit hard to believe

        • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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            I’m triggered.

            Writing a privacy policy for an entirely off-line app was endlessly frustrating.

            And it’s crazy that there is no validation of the policy, you can say what you want and then do anything you like…

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    So that’s why there weren’t any open source apps on iOS. When I started my degoogling journey I got an iPhone to try out the grass on the other side. But i was sorely disappointed by both the low quality of the apps and the lack of open source alternatives.

    • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      There is some, but it’s mostly large projects with a lot of funding.

      There’s some oss projects on the app store that cost money as a way to cover the fee

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      Don’t forget about apple aggressively blocking any form of sideloading for a while

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        Still happens in the US, sadly. The EU forced them to allow sideloading, but the US version of iOS still tries to prevent it.

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          Damn I didn’t know that. At least ios can now save PWAs lol

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      There are some open source iOS apps. VLC, Organic Maps, Psychonaut Journal, NetNewsWire, lots of Lemmy clients.

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    If they are charging that much they clearly don’t want my app

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