• Actionschnils@feddit.org
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    8 days ago

    As far as I know and remember, in Germany the “Finders Keepers” rule fully aplies on the beach. So if you find something (you are allowed to own) wached up on the beach, you can keep it. And the owner cant do anything about it. A couple of years ago, someone found a container with a motorcycle - and was allowed to own it.

    Looked it up: They changed it in 1990 - sad :<

    • Ozymandias88@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      In the UK you must take reasonable steps to return anything you find to the owner.

      If you can’t return it to the owner it’s yours.

      • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 days ago

        Capital. We should gather all the bananas and return them to the owner (just leave them on their doorstep).

  • MightyThistle 🌺♀️@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I’m gonna go there, eat as many free bananas as I can because wasting food is ew, and use my glowing radioactive body to fuel a sweet rave beach party

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    7 days ago

    I never thought I’d ever defend UK laws, but if you take something that doesn’t belong to you, isn’t it generally frowned upon in most parts of the world? This seems pretty normal to me

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      7 days ago

      Locals are arguing that the Wrecks and Salvage law applies to this, so it seems there is precedent somewhere for them taking the bananas.

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      7 days ago

      Morally nobody is being deprived of value because the goods aren’t saleable and thus no effort will be made to collect them. They are rather insisting that others who would have enjoyed them should simply let them rot. So first you are arguing for moral evil for no purpose. Next it is normally the case that goods that are abandoned on purpose eg making no attempt to collect the bananas cannot be stolen.

      Lastly such a threat is absolutely insane.because it is a threat to go after private citizens with the power of the state to punish people for what normally isn’t a crime, wasting the publics resources hurting people for doing something that was never morally wrong.

      Does this still make sense to you?

      • percent@infosec.pub
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        7 days ago

        Sure, I understand the moral arguments, but it’s very common to have legal consequences when taking something that doesn’t belong to you — regardless of morals.

        Of course it would be morally better to give everyone permission to take the bananas. It sounds like that hasn’t happened though, so it seems very simple to understand that there would be legal consequences for taking them.

        How is this not obvious? Did I miss some critical detail?

        • michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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          4 days ago

          You are missing everything basically.

          Normally its actually legally impossible to pursue charges against someone for picking up something you deliberately abandon. Furthermore the act of doing so would in the best case involve spending thousands to tens of thousands of the people’s money to pursue such charges. Threatening to burn the people’s money and hurt people to keep people from eating food that has been abandoned is absolutely crazy.

  • Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    “The guards were on the river bank to make sure the poor didn’t take the fruit from the river, when that was too expensive it was collected in a pile and doused in kerosene. The hogs were burned as well all for the sake of profit” -grapes of wrath

    I honestly think about it to this day. We didn’t give milk to the homeless during covid. Farmers dumped it all for profit. We don’t grow food to feed We gro food to make profit.

  • unphazed@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    This is to keep people safe. Only those that have taken the Banana Self Defense class are certified for consumption of these bananas.

  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    In their defense, the warning could just be a CYA thing if someone eats one, gets sick and wants to sue for food poisoning.

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        7 days ago

        Because they have lawyers in retainer. They only speak one language. From their perspective, putting out a threading notice is the cheapest, easiest thing to do.

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      7 days ago

      That’s probably the case, or at least a part of it, but it’s crazy that it’s gotten to that point. If somebody finds a food item in the wild and decides to eat it, the consequences should be 100% on them. It doesn’t even have to apply to food, either.

      If I find a block heater on the ground, install it into my car, and then my car catches fire; I’m not going to go after the manufacturer of the block heater. I’m the idiot who decided to do something stupid.

      That being said there’s real life cases which indicate that yes, people are stupid and will sue over their own stupidity, so I’m not surprised at all.

    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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      7 days ago

      Excuse me. There’s a sign at Ramsett Park that says “Do not drink the sprinkler water,” so I made sun tea with it, and now I have an infection. Sir? Sir, are… are… are… are you listening to me, sir? Sir, I’m talking to you! Sir! Sir, are you aware that there is waste in your water system?

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    8 days ago

    I don’t know anything about British courts, but I doubt that any court is going to find anybody guilty of any major crime for collecting bananas washing up on the beach, for which the corporation that lost them got an insurance settlement to cover the loss. That’s salvage, and salvage rights are long established.

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      7 days ago

      While the coastguard was clear that they didn’t mean the bananas

      this does not include perishable goods like foodstuffs.

      Either way though, everyone here IS following maritime salvage law.

      The “long established” rule that is that the owner has all rights to the cargo and wreck, but must compensate those who assist in recovery if the owner agrees to assistance

      The British maritime law that keeps getting referenced was put into place initially to ensure that people would be compensated completely when assisting. Previously, when it was a raw ‘handshake’ agreement, there would be negotiations before helping, or Party A would screw over Party B with a low-ball reward, or Party B would just nope out of the situation out of fear of not getting reimbursed.

      The shipping company in this situation sent a list of missing stuff. If you find missing stuff, you report it, and they know how much you should be compensated and make sure you get it. In this case, they want their expensive refrigeration equipment.

    • titanicx@lemmy.zip
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      8 days ago

      I’ve seen Oliver twist, they are ready to sentence people to jail for this crime.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        7 days ago

        I mean, that was slightly fictional, although that’s the maybe the joke. And set a sesquicentury ago.

          • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            7 days ago

            Yeah, I futzed with it a bit. At first I did sesquicentennial, but that’s purely an adjective which isn’t great. Sesquicentenary refers to the day, so that wouldn’t work. So, I made a nonce word which, if you know these other two, is clear.

            I’ll just ignore the insulting tone.