• FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    I am denying the “evidences” you so poorly presented as, before and during 2014, it has been proved and confirmed by put-it-in himself that the Donbass and Luhansk separatist militias were being funded by the russian state in order to try to undermine Ukraine sovereignty in those regions while also keeping the animosity between the russian and Ukrainian people alive. Any kind of analysis which does not consider this data can be simply seen as russia propaganda.

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          Russia indeed does have ties to pro-Russian, anti-Banderite groups in Crimea. It’s why they voted to join Russia instead of getting ethnically cleansed by Kiev. You’re ignoring evidence of ethnic cleansing and believing it justified because of your racism against Russians, and are selectively plugging your ears when the Banderites commit crimes against humanity against ethnic Russians.

          This is on top of your now rather boring homophobia that you can’t keep yourself from.

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            Also, what made you think I’m an homophobe? Can you cite any omophobic contents from my posts? I bet you can’t, are you projecting stepbro?

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              You keep making wierd sexual remarks about heads of state, be it Trump or Putin. Casual homophobia, though not nearly as extreme as your racism, I’ll admit.

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                Did I hurt you when I mocked your head of state by changing his name? Awwwwwwwww, I’m sowwyyyyyyyyyyy

                There’s nothing homophobic in turning an homophobe like put-it-in in a gay joke, on the contrary is something which would engage him very much because, as a good homophobe, he cannot bear to be seen as a possible homosexual. It would share his idea of “alpha male” XD

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                  No, you’re using gay people as a punchline to fight people you don’t like. As a pansexual man, seeing people like you defend their homophobia because your target is homophobic is not unusual but absolutely perpetuates homophobia.

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                    Again, being no homophobe but still straight it is of no consequence to me if someone calls me gay or homo, as I don’t see these terms as insults. But try to call an homophobe gay and you’ll see how much he sheetes at what he percives as an insult. If you see calling someone an homosexual as an insult the problem is not with me but with yourself because you’re charging the word gay with a negative meaning. Try understanding better your pansexuality before calling other homophobes ;)

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            Russia was invading militarily Crimea well before 2014, when you stated the ethnic cleansing against the russian population began. So we can see the so called “ethnic cleansing” as a measured response against a coup being carried out, which is a normal reaction any state would have should it territorial integrity being compromised. It’s not me plugging my ears, it’s you who don’t want to look at the historical evidences I provided you with because they go against your narrative. But as they say “blame others for your own acts and then cry foul” seems to be the only tactic left for the kremlin trolls online at this point

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              Russia was invading militarily Crimea well before 2014

              Lol, do you mean the lease agreement in which Ukraine was getting a ton of money for the Russian naval base in Crimea? Is that your definition of “invading”?

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              So you’re defending ethnic cleansing as a “measured response,” like a “final solution,” would you say? Excellent, you keep outing yourself as a fascist more and more. I was wrong, I admit, I thought you were ignoring the evidence of ethnic cleansing instead of supporting the ethnic cleansing.

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                No, I’m saying that the Ukrainian state fought against a militia armed and trained by the russian to steal the Crimean peninsula. While there were treaties in place preventing the russian from acting exactly like this. If you wage a coup against a state you cannot cry genocide when you are fought against by the state you attacked first

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                  Ukraine broke the treaties, and the Banderites couped the state and started ethnically cleansing Russians. It’s ethnic cleansing, full stop.

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                    Again, put-it-in admitted himself russia was supporting separatists militias in a military fashion well before 2014, when the Crimean war broke out. How can you so blindly keep on repeating that was Ukraine to break the treaties is beyond my understanding