• endless_nameless@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    I once dated a goth girl who wanted me to tie her up. I took it seriously and started learning how to do it. Researched the correct type of rope to use, the dangers associated, etc. Went to the hardware store. Built a really simple practice rig so I could practice some knots safely. Learned about which knots were safe where on the body without causing nerve damage, and how to recognize the early signs of nerve damage before the damage becomes permanent. I even got special scissors for cutting rope in an emergency.

    I informed her of my progress and that we would be able to indulge in her fantasy soon. (note: I was recently diagnosed with autism) She told me I was being to extra about it and that she didn’t want to do it anymore. I asked her if she’d rather lose feeling in her fingers. Needless to say that was a huge waste of time and effort. Moral of the story is either a) don’t put in energy to these things without knowing it will be matched, or b) when someone says they want to be tied up just buy a roll of sex tape and safety scissors.

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      There are a lot of people with impossible fantasies. They want their partner to be spontaneous but only when it’s convenient, they want a sense of danger but no real danger (but they want to believe there is real danger). It leads people to do stupid stuff like under negotiating kink scenes in the interest of “realism”. People get hurt.

      You did the right thing. Some goth girl will be lucky to have you tie her up someday.

    • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
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      Forget her, you did good and now know all the important stuff if someone else has a similar ask.

      But fr sex tape is much easier, shibari’s a skill that takes practice and knowledge to avoid injury, particularly if you want to start getting fancy.

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      Did you enjoy learning that stuff? If nothing else you got an anecdote out of it so I’d say it wasn’t a total waste.

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      Similar experience for me, I still have a copy of Learning the Ropes tucked away just in case I find someone with the patience to be properly restrained

      It turned out she just wanted something that could be accomplished with a set of cuffs, which is the quick and easy solution

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      What a strange way to look at the world. Do you spend all day compiling dossiers on the people who made stuff you like?

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      This person has a really shallow understanding of consent. That doesn’t mean that they can’t learn or change their mind.

      I’m also wondering why they think that communism inevitably leads to mass murder.

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      The theme of the game is “destroy and pollute the environment of an entire planet just so you can leave”, somehow I am not surprised.

      I don’t get why the disinterest in the theme of factorio exploring the planet or seeing the planet as anything but hostile doesn’t sit weird with more people.

      If the game explicitly recognized you are the villain I would be fine with it but factorio is oblivious to this and it makes the whole thing feel hollow to me.

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        A buddy of mine has been messing around for the last couple of years with the idea of a game that’s almost the opposite of factorio. Take a planet that’s crazy polluted and clean out up / help nature heal. I hope he actually does it some day.

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        I mean… At risk of sounding like I’m defending a fucking pedo, and also having never played Factorio, doing terrible things and being mostly evil is something that happens in quite a few games. I don’t think that alone points to anything. Otherwise fuck that guy and I hope his life crumbles

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          Like I specifically said, I have no problem with playing a fictional villain my issue is the massive unaddressed blindspot inherent to the context of the Factorio’s framing.

          I don’t know why people always respond like this by thinking I have an issue with villain roleplay, that isn’t what I am saying at all.

          The problem is the lack of self awareness not the make believe evilness.

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            While I understand where you’re coming from, you’re trying to project a story and moral philosophy onto a game that is completely bereft of a plot line. The entire plot is “you crashed on a planet. Survive and escape.” No more, no less. The plot literally doesn’t have room for moral philosophy or “you were really the bad guy all along” plot twists, because there is no plot to contain those themes. If you want to role-play that in your world, feel free to do so. The game is a sandbox with simple cause>effect consequences, not an A>B>C storyline.

            The meaning behind that cause and effect is left up to the individual players to interpret however they’d like. You say that the lack of self-awareness is what makes the game problematic, but I would argue that the individual players are the ones responsible for that. Because the game doesn’t assign good or evil to the individual actions. The player’s actions simply change the world in some way, (like adding pollution to the air), and the player is left to deal with the consequences of those changes, (like being attacked by natives as the pollution spreads and causes them to multiply).

            Saying that the game is bad because it’s missing those themes is like saying that Gary’s Mod is bad because it doesn’t force players to grapple with the realities of being a god that is able to make, unmake, and manipulate reality at will. The game is a sandbox meant for creative thinking within the rules of the game, not a narrative meant to inspire moral philosophy.

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        I dunno how much more explicit it really needs to be, the biters attack you and get stronger directly because of the pollution you cause. The more you destroy their world the more they try to get you off it. I always felt like that made it pretty clear that you’re the villain.

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          Really? Why are there no benign animals? Why are all the alien creatures designed to evoke an easy disgust reaction from the player?

          I am fine blasting alien bugs, what I wanted from Factorio was a more tongue in cheek awareness of the fundamental selfish brutality to the plot.

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            maybe it’s just because I don’t really find the biters disgusting then. They are benign, there’s just nothing that helps the player because the player is evil.

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        Going Eco friendly in factorio is rewarded though. I think throughout the game you also realize that you are the bad person because the biters don’t attack as long as you aren’t polluting and destroying the environment.

        Dev is still an asshole though

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      I only slightly agree. Koravex hasn’t done enough to get canceled for real. Koravex is just typical center or slightly right in those opinions, there are too many ppl like that who are my friends and are nice to me about my minority identities like being trans. If I were to try cancel koravex, many of my friends would be weary of me and push me away.

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      Source?

      Edit: I found the controversy, kinda disappointed but now that I have the game, it doesn’t change much for myself. I’m not sure how much support there is for this in the community for this, but still disappointing to see from the head Dev of a game I enjoy a lot.

      I probably won’t recommend it to people anymore now

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    This is dumb, the whole point of factorio is to automate it enough that you can have sex for five minutes and not miss anything.