• songwriterallnighter@lemmy.zip
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    I don’t care what other countries do to a degree where we need to intervene their governance with military or covert actions, I don’t understand their culture, their history, their people, their way of thinking to force democracy across the world. I only care about protecting our country, our people and leaving the world the fuck alone. I feel like that’s how most of the world works.

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    China, under the murderous CCP and PLA (76+ million murdered), is authoritarian. Ask the folks in Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong SAR, and Manchuria how they feel about the Han Chinese ruining their day. Taiwan is holding out with very good reasons. As for the USA, Krasnov said, Xi is great and we love each other.

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    Not to mention that western countries are the ones going towards 1984 with thier fucking age verification

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    The Chinese credit system is western propaganda there is nothing like it as described in western media.

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    China’s social credit score system exists because after their rapid urbanization the business community started complaining that they needed a way to know who can be trusted to pay back loans. At the same time the cities were full of people who were used to knowing all their neighbors and were now surrounded by strangers that they didn’t trust. The Chinese government framed both of these problems as the same thing - a crisis of trust - and presented the social credit score as the solution. It was just a copy of the United States’ credit score system but dressed up in socialist buzzwords to make it more palatable to the people, so it was really just meant to solve the first problem while pretending to solve the latter. The “social” aspects of the social credit score (subtracting points when someone commits a crime, public disturbance, etc.) are inconsistently applied across various localities and practically vestigial, most Chinese are not even aware that they exist. It’s ironic that this socialist coat of paint on one of the most capitalistic elements in the Chinese economy makes Americans think it’s dystopian, while in reality the most dystopian parts of it are the ways that it’s identical to our credit system.

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      That is pretty wild. I didn’t know any of this … I just thought “communist dystopia is dystopian”. The fact that you can take a hit to the credit score for engaging in protests and demonstrations is still scary … no one show this to Republicans.

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      I cannot emphasize enough how much air would be sucked out of our propaganda overnight if china just fucking uncensored the internet and truly protected freedom of speech and information.

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        I mean judging by how cooked the brains of so many western people are with internet conspiracies like qanon, I’m not sure that would be the result of deregulation

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    Noone actually forces you to live in debt. It should be last resort, but people in US finance everything

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      but people in US finance everything

      Damn I wonder why they do that. Must have nothing to do poverty. /s

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      Noone actually forces you to live in debt

      Oh damn I didn’t know they made housing and healthcare free, that’s dope as fuck

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        Come on like half of car sales in US are financed.

        You know that Healthcare and housing is the last resort I’m talking about - where you have no other option.

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          The US is reliant on cars, but many people cannot afford buying them outright or low-interest loans. This is by design, not choice.

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            Bullshit. Used car market exists since the invention of a car. If you need a vehicle that will drive your ass from point A to the point B you absolutely have no need to buy a brand new one.

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              The used car market is volitile, regional, and often close to new in price. Stop blaming systemic issues on actions of individuals. I’m not saying that it’s impossible for one to make poor financial decisions, but instead that the very system is designed around maximizing profits squeezed from the working classes.