• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 hours ago

    Have you seen how much sugar jam needs to be preserve?
    Fruit jam alone is usually 1:2 and at best for certain acidic fruits 1:3

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      5 hours ago

      The products I buy are 1:1. Maybe slightly more towards sugar, but never 1:3. Not saying these don’t exist but you don’t need more than 1:1 to preserve.

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      5 hours ago

      You don’t need any sugar to preserve, you just need to cook it at 15 lbs of pressure for an hour and a half.

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              3 hours ago

              You have no idea what you are talking about, pressure cooking kills botulism. You have never canned food before clearly. You are just luck louis pasteur isn’t on this thread.

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                3 hours ago

                What my family told me is:
                Enough sugar, acidity or long enough heat.

                And one can’t be a know-it-all in every profession.
                So if you have a reputable source for your claim, I’ll gladly accept it.
                Else it’s your word against mine.

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                  3 hours ago

                  You are correct there are multiple ways to preserve foods, and sugar is one, as it’s hyrdroscopic (edit, Hygroscopic I think not hydro-,) it grabs all the water so bacteria can’t use it, same as salt does. Vinegar is another. Pressure cooking, 15 pounds for an hour and a half, does the trick. The older way, tyndallization, which Pasteur (and koch, of germany) popularized, before pressure cookers existed, when they definitively proved germ theory to the legions of dumb motherfuckers believing in spontaneous generation, is to heat something to boiling for an hour or so, covered, let it sit for a day, do it again, then another day and another boil, and it kills any hardy bacteria in it. Not quite as reliably as pressure cookers however.

                  The best way to pressure cook combines both methods for dry goods, you soak them for a day, letting anything growing in them sprout, boil it for long enough to soak up the water level you want in them, dry it out, then pressure cook the next day.

                  This is a well fleshed out process.