“The banks” ah yes seize all the worthless money instead of learning from iran and occupying vital infrastructure
Tbf this is just referencing the Paris commune which would genuinely have benefitted from siezing the banks instead of taking loans(lmao)
Protests that exist within the legal confines of the government you’re protesting against, are essentially just block parties. They’re a release valve.
“Only violence works!” is stupid for exactly the same reason as “only non violence works!”
The two are synergistic and contextual, fool.
-you, having your legs eaten by a bear
Enlightened centrist.
Nah I think this user is saying that both have their place. And really, I don’t think that’s controversial. E.g., we do need to seize the banks, which will probably be violent, but we also need to do mutual aid, which need not be violent.
every time i see these centrist arguments, i feel like i should be keeping meme’s that explain the point succinctly, but then i have to keep reminding myself that all that effort will be ignored anyways.
It’s not like you can even recommend them Fanon, because these motherfuckers don’t read!
Finally, something anarchists and communists can agree on
Yes, we’re comrades who share a common struggle. But do you mean anarchists and marxists? Cause every single anarchist I know in real life is also a communist. And ever anarchist movement or org or squatting place or whatever too. Only online do I ever find anarchists who distance themselves from the idea of a stateless classless society (the universally accepted definition of communism). Like I assume you’re okay with society being stateless. So you want it to have classes? Not really, right? Marxists and anarchists have different strategies for how to get there, but clearly every anarchists who wants a classless stateless society (i.e. communism) is also a communist.
When I made this comment its because on Lemmy you’d think communists and anarchists are completely opposing ideologies with how much the users fight each other. Seems kinda strange if you ask me cause my experience is your’s in real life. The anarchists and communists I know in person happily get along with each other and provide aide in the same ways. I assume it stems from an examination of the past instead of a focus on the changes occuring now. I think today communists and anarchists have more reasons than ever to unite.
Idk there’s a few users who call them selves anarchists that will rage against this
Goddamn right, we want everything, not just the banks
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Anarchists refused to seize the banks during the Paris Commune.
Source? If that’s the case then yeah, that’s a mistake on my ideological ancestors’ part.
The source is the history of the Paris Commune and the French Civil War.
Source: any place anyone writes anything about the Paris commune. It was a major thing. You can read about it in Marx writing, or you know, just Wikipedia or any history book about the timeframe.
With all the lead poisoning in the US, I’d say it works on the plebs too.
Sure, you first.
Join us coward
I have every intention to once there’s an “us” to join. I just don’t have respect for cowards who expect other people to do the dangerous work for them.
Give me an organized movement big enough to accomplish its goals and I’ll be there. Without a big organized movement, violence against the state is just impotent suicide.
The organized movement can’t get big if people wait to join it until it is big. I recommend PSL
Sure, but it also can’t get big if people jump straight to lead prematurely, we’ll get picked off one by one. Lay low, organize, and then explore alternative overt actions besides voting and peaceful protest. That’s not the message OP is implying.
Ah yes, revolution is when individual responsibility. 🙄
