• JargonWagon@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      And then spend an hour trying to get the presentation to run the way you made it. I love Linux, but installing Linux here in this time sensitive situation is definitely not the move for someone who has Windows already installed and their presentation completed and saved, presumably because they don’t know enough about Linux to confidently switch over completely. Some will probably be able to get out of that situation unscathed, but not most.

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        11 days ago

        And yet, they would still be more likely to pull off the presentation in Linux if it’s literally not possible in Windows 😉

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        11 days ago

        I don’t think they were genuinely expecting the person to install Linux instead of waiting for an update to finish

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      12 days ago

      If I don’t find an anti-AI kernel fork I might be moving to NetBSD soon. That sucks, I hate moving to a new OS.

      • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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        12 days ago

        Linus has always prioritized results over ideological purity. Which is why Linux runs the world whereas BSD is still just a niche project.

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          Clearly he doesn’t care about results because he slop coded with antigravity rather than reading documentation for a python side-project. I imagine his younger self would be cussing his older self out for shipping things he literally doesn’t understand.

          The reason for his actions are much simpler: he got paid. He gets paid from the linux foundation which receives a lump sum from AI companies. In 2024 Linus said AI was just Hype, but then the foundation received millions in funds from the AI companies.

          If he cared about results he would have written the damn things himself.

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            11 days ago

            I’m no vibecoder but between 2024 and now, LLMs also got much better. It might not have been the money that changed his mind.

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                  11 days ago

                  You’re going to argue that some new never before seen trove of uncontaminated training data was discovered? Perhaps you think the AI Scaling Laws don’t exist? Businesses that adopted AI dropped it or went out of business not long after, it’s as useless today as it was in the 1980s.

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          That and BSD was almost BSD™ by AT&T™.

          Lost all its momentum at probably its most valuable growth opportunity to a single dev.

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            12 days ago

            A lot of people very recently are already jumping ship from Linux so it appears a new most valuable growth opportunity has arrived.

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          I’m not sure I’d call permissive licensing “ideological purity” compared to copyleft.

          Frankly, I think BSD loses because corporations are legally allowed to take and never give back.

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          I’m not totally convinced that his behavior in the past is a reflection on what is to come. He is at this point still refusing to answer questions about licensing LLM generated code and such and has apparently been obfuscating LLM commits. That doesn’t sound like somebody who is committed to results so much as it sounds like somebody giving into AI brainrot.

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            He’s also human, for example he hypothetically could use AI to offset a disability like dementia - a totally reasonable emotional response, but also not who I want controlling global cyber security.

            Last I heard though all AI commits were a separate branch, I wasn’t aware of any sneakiness.

      • kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org
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        11 days ago

        No, he said AI may be used for assistance in kernel commits, but the same code quality and comprehensibility as before AI is required.

        He cares about the output, not it you got some code snippet from ai or stackoverflow.

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          And AI code is intrinsically bad because is fundamentally impossible to understand (yeah, I mean literally). You just can understand what you actually put your effort to comprehend, reason and write by yourself. They’re just delegating their reasoning to a machine.

          Also, Why not LLMs?

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            AI is just stolen code. It’s often similar quality to human output

            I once tried to remake one of my projects using AI. When I gave it the requirements, it damn near recreated the project exactly how I made it. It was probably referencing my exact project, which would have been its training data, but it was a bit weird how well it did it

            It was not, “fundamentally impossible to understand” either figuratively or literally

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    I haven’t used Windows in years, but it’s kind of funny to remember because my Linux machines take at most 5 minutes to update (even with a hundred packages to update), and only require a restart if something important happens, and even in that case I can postpone the reboot.

    Good luck anyway!

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      Windows machines frequently do updates without a reboot nowadays and you can usually postpone an update to a more convenient time.

      The problem is that when an update that requires a restart is waiting, it changes the standard restart button into one that does an update and restart. You can often fall into muscle memory and accidentally trigger an update.

      When combined with the fact that you quite often get problems that go away with a reboot you can easily get yourself into OP’s position where they’re waiting for an update to finish at a really inconvenient time.

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      12 days ago

      Not even doing an A/B partition kexec update scheme with VM live migration for all critical services??

      Oh wait I’m a stereotype

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      Nowadays, a lot of Linux distributions like Ubuntu, for example, will do an update and then tell you that you should reboot, even if a reboot isn’t strictly necessary. You can still ignore and postpone, but I think most users will see this as very similar to Windows.

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        Except for the fact that you can still use your computer while it’s updating. And it only takes one reboot (which takes the same amount of time as any other reboot) to apply the updates. And you have to actually tell your computer that you want to reboot. It’s really not like windows at all.

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    11 days ago

    Lol were you my cyber security policy consultant? Because he was late to his own meeting for this very reason yesterday morning.

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    The way my org does it, I get a pop up saying my computer will be forcibly restarted when the countdown reaches zero. It’s typically an 8 hour timer. And the dialog can’t be minimized. If you move it, it moves back to the lower right every minute or so.

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    When it happened to one of my students at least I was able to play it off and make fun of Windows instead of embarrassing them. But I also give full credit on presentations regardless of how bad they go.

    That said, woe is you if it’s literally anything else, like a conference or a business meeting. Lol

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        Only for the presentation itself, there’s a written part that has a rubric. With presentations, the social aspect is enough to get people to do as well as they can because most people prefer not to look like an idiot in front of the class.

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      12 days ago

      Lemmy/Reddit, Linux/Windows… Many of us are forced to use Windows on corporate hardware.

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    11 days ago

    Did anyone comment that maybe this is the user error? Waiting until the last moment rarely work great.

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      Waiting until the last moment rarely work great.

      If you have to carry such a mental load to manage a tool that should enable what you do, instead of blatantly getting in your way, then it’s a bad and ineffective tool.