Strong…no?? 😭
Weak. Very, very weak (me).

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    one of these is not like the others

    i like your posts miisha, but this one feels a lil like a stab at other women in a way i don’t love.
    i have literally never in my whole life written the word pickme so breaking the seal on that for this one i guess

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    Ideal woman…

    -Woman (optional)

    -Fucks

    -Pays half of rent.

    Don’t make it any more complicated than it needs to be.

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        Give it time 💖 it took me a while but after experiencing so many men abuse me and other women in my life and constantly minimizing it or justifying it I snapped. I think also after I learned what v-coding was then I really went into the misandry deep end.

        • Miisha ♀️@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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          Yep. And V-coding…yeah…
          I give it less than half a year tbh. At this point, with all that’s happening in the world because of men…
          sigh

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            and it isn’t just the men /actively/ doing it - it’s all the men in a position to stop it or speak up who don’t
            (any men mad about this: this doesn’t just apply to men; it applies to any systemic oppression)

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          It’s so hard to not be overwhelmed with anger. The Cornell thing has me seeing red.

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    If someone hates men that’s not my business, I get it and don’t take it personally.

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      I think hatred of all kinds is detrimental to humanity and the planet, but maybe thatsthat’s just me.

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          That’s pretty sexist to condemn an entire gender because of the actions of a vocal minority.

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            Abusers plus their enablers make up a majority. It’s not all men but it’s too fucking many.

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                I doubt they have an exact stat. But if about 1 in 3 women experience abuse, maybe 1 in 3 men commit the abuse? I dont think it would be a 1 to 1 ratio tho. And then assume another 1 in 3 men who have enabled an abuser, that would be a majority.

                The number of enablers is probably WAY higher and the number who commit abuse is a bit lower. But I could see it being at least 51% between the two.

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                  Yeah, I think the number would be decently lower than 33% because abusers typically don’t just abuse one person.

                  And “enabling” really needs to be defined.

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                  If your conclusion is that the entire gender is this way, then yes you are.

                  I’ve been cheated on a bunch. Would it be fair of me to say all women are cheaters? Of course not, because my life experiences aren’t representative of the population.

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                  Your hating me for my genitals adds to the total amount of oppression in the system and alleviates none of it.

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                “Bystanders” yeah that’s something to call most men. They do be standing by while their brothers, fathers, and sons rape and kill women constantly. Doing fuck all about it. Encouraging it even.

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                  Your reply is a common reply that is used to defend the criminlization of innocent men, quite often of men that support women in the fight against the patriarchy.

                  The people who don’t care and are not affected by what you say are the enemy. The people who do and are are your allies.

                  Stop turning against your allies.

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        Oh it absolutely is! And also, me getting offended every time I see someone who has had negative experience with men isn’t going to do anything to fix that.

        The right way to respond to someone who has been harmed by patriarchy, is to be empathetic but not make it about yourself. You can’t argue someone out of abuse they may have suffered

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          When I meet someone who has negative experience with people of color who says they hate black people because of it, I call that person a racist.

          It’s really easy to wax poetically about inclusivity, and the importance of fighting hatred and and prejudice as concepts in a vacuum. The true challenge to those ideals is when reality happens and people are hurt. Is equality and inclusivity just an aesthetic? Something that makes you seem magnanimous whenever you extend your grace to people you perceive have less power than you? Or is it something real, something difficult, something that can withstand being tested?

          Hatred is harmful to the person doing the hating, and harmful to society. TERF’s exist as examples of how hating men can make the world worst place. They start by making excuses about how the power imbalance makes it pay to hate men, and yet because of the power imbalance the hatred seeks out the only target it can: trans women.

          You are correct that you cannot argue people put of the abuse they have suffered. The challenge lies within each of us to look within ourselves and challenge our own prejudices, even the ones we might try to justify.

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            TERFs don’t hate men fyi. They hate trans people, specifically trans women. They actually love allying with sexist conservative men. Also consider the power involved in someone’s hatred. If a white person hates black people it results in discrimination and violence because our society is white supremacist and specifically benefits white people for upholding anti black racism. If a black person hates white people it has virtually no effect on white people because our society is white supremacist. It’s the same deal with women who hate men.

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            Thank you for using Black Suffering™ to defend [all men]. If there is anything else Black people can do for you today, please don’t hesitate to ask!

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          “Don’t make this about yourself” is an odd response to “You shouldn’t hate any category of person” :/

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            I agree that in the abstract, no category of person deserve hate. In the abstract, all categories of people are equally prone to the good and bad elements of human nature.

            However, in the context of social interaction, you have to use empathy. I don’t think hate is ever justified but on the other hand, social safety for anyone who isn’t a straight, white, cisgender hetero normative male is not great right now.

            it’s not my place to judge the experience of someone with less privilege than me. That doesn’t mean I agree with them or think it’s fine to hate. I’m just not qualified to have that conversation.