• one_old_coder@piefed.social
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    12 days ago

    It’s NOT funny! With all the AI shit, micro-managers trying to be clones of Hitler, and unemployment to make the line go up, it’s something I’m seriously considering.

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      12 days ago

      None of that shit except maybe the AI goes away in a woodshop. Hell, owners probably love AI because now they don’t need to pay a designer and drawer.

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        12 days ago

        The AI reason is enough, but if someone has their own shop, then there aren’t micromanagers either.

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          12 days ago

          The fat ass that hasn’t physically produced a piece of furniture in 25 years, changes plans halfway through builds, checks scrap for “egregious waste”, nickles and dimes overtime, always has out of scope tasks for anyone he takes a disliking to, I could go on… is absolutely a micromanager. The foreman was paid the most to be in charge on the shop floor, make decisions on the fly, handle vendors and materials purchases, but was frequently overridden by a voice yelling from a lofted office space. Just because they own the business doesn’t mean they can’t micromanage. Sounds like the stuff a micromanager owner would say

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            12 days ago

            I’m thinking more a person that builds furniture, then sells the completed piece. There’s definitely possibility of plan changes part way through when doing custom work, but a solo wood worker either doesn’t have to do custom jobs or can take payment (or partial) up front and not deal with it. I also don’t consider change requests as micromanagement as annoying as they can be.

            If you work for yourself, the only micromanager is you, and that’s your own fault.

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          12 days ago

          Oh you mean a one man shop. Unless you’re already famous it’s just going to be a hobby shop, the furniture market is completely fucked by overseas competition. We made furniture for David Iatesta, which I guess is some fancy ass design house. A ~40 4poster king size bedframe in red oak was our priciest standard option, we sold to them for ~$2.5k, they sanded a little more, and added ugly finishes and sold for $10k+

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            12 days ago

            Yes, that’s what I was meaning. You’re right, it would be tough to make enough money without already having something if a following doing furniture.

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              11 days ago

              Sorry to bag on the dream dude. I highly recommend getting yourself a lathe and a drill press at harbor freight and going town. Both are relatively safe tools (no loose hair/clothing) with no blades, easy to learn, and the range of stuff you can make with those two alone is large. It’s a wonderful hobby, it’s a pretty terrible job. I may still be recovering from the trauma a decade later because I have not built a personal piece since I was fired.

      • turdburglar@piefed.social
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        12 days ago

        well as someone who works in a woodshop and has received plans from a client designed by ai, i can saw without reservation that we definitely still need someone to design and draw plans.

        also im not sure how to spell draw-er, but a drawer is a little slidey bit in a cabinet that you can put stuff in and close.

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          11 days ago

          A drawer and a drawer are two different things, there’s a word for words like that. You can say Technical Drawer to draw distinction I suppose, or maybe Drafter is more correct but that feels architectural to me. Funny enough Drawers have slides, and so do drawers. I need to take my meds

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      12 days ago

      It used to be a meme, because every so often a dev left into that direction, even though most devs loved their job. A month ago, I was talking in the office with three other devs when this came up as a topic. It was not a meme anymore, every single one of us had seriously considered it.

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        11 days ago

        I went to trade school a couple years ago. Like three or four of my classmates were former programmers who were sick of the AI shit

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          12 days ago

          My buddy recently asked if I had any leads on stagehand work, because he spontaneously quit his IT job last month. He said that compared to the stress of modern IT work, he’d rather be a local roadcase pusher.

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            12 days ago

            I’ve been restoring classic cars for 3 yeses now. Lost my company 3 months before the pandemic and haven’t looked back.

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        12 days ago

        even though most devs loved their job

        This is the crazy reality of tech workers. I work in security and I really enjoy my work, but I’m about two days from rage quitting and making furniture out of wood.

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            11 days ago

            Most people are describing a vibe not an actual career aspiration.

            It makes perfect sense too. Most tech workers, I assume at least, enjoy building things, but these days the tech you build (or tangentially work on in my case mostly) is fluff. Even if the product isn’t fluff, the tech world seems to try very hard to make sure you feel nothing towards it. You don’t feel like you’re a part of it and you don’t see yourself in the work. The product isn’t for you and it isn’t even for the users, they, and you, are means to an end. The end is money for the people in charge of the company or investors. The natural feeling then is to be drawn to some sort of physical craft, something you make yourself and very tangibly exists. Something you can see yourself and the results of your labor in.

            I’m going to probably have to do something else, because I’m losing my mind, but I’m not good enough at making things out of wood and have a house to pay off. I relate to the feeling though and the concept of “I no longer work in software and instead make furniture out of wood”. It’s a metaphor

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      12 days ago

      I recognize that screenshot, pretty sure this was before widespread AI adoption. I can still relate to this guy today, just like I could back when I first saw that comment.

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    12 days ago

    The shop teacher at my school actually did lose a couple of fingers to a table saw (not at school). Like right after he retired, too.

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    12 days ago

    I’m going into plumbing. I’m done with this shit.

    Shit is my shit now, and it’s much nicer.

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    12 days ago

    I work in Automation/Controls and i spend most of my day pretending like i don’t really know what I’m doing but amazingly enough getting it right on the first 1-3 tries while also accidentally fixing something else.

    It’s honest work.

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    12 days ago

    My senior always jokes about opening a food truck. One day they’re gonna push us hard enough that we’ll do it, too.

    • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      The difference between IT and important jobs, is that I get to drink on the clock in IT. In fact it’s mandated.

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        12 days ago

        At my old job, the IT department had a kombucha tap right at the end of their counter. I always wondered if they considered swapping the kombucha keg out for something stronger.

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          Did you ever try it? Or is kombutcha just what they wrote on the label?

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              Was that some sort of kombucha-flavoured soft drink? Actual kombucha drink tastes only like vinegar. (I drank it for maybe a year in a health-crazed period ~20 years ago xD)

            • punchmesan@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              11 days ago

              You’re not the only one, I’ve been with quite a few startups and before that I worked with VC’s to help get new portfolio companies rolling with IT. Never have a seen it, I’ve only heard of it.

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                11 days ago

                It’s probably for the best, I predict I’d either drink too much or complain that they only buy crappy beer :)

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              It’s not just tech companies lol. It’s funny, the place we would have meetings–when it was a lot of people–was 50% off for the company. It was a nice cantina. Let’s just say my beer mug was a jug and I didn’t have to pay for it lol. >_> one time I was the designated driver sigh. Good thing it was a minute drive and then we would all drink more at the bosses house. Even when I worked in education, no one gave me shit coming in smelling of booze; one day I had to call off after reading my students file. No one blamed me for getting shitfaced after reading that.

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    12 days ago

    i once took over a consultancy gig at a high-tech optical lab. when me and the guy i was replacing were leaving on the last day of the handover i asked just conversationally where he was going next, and he told me he was going back to school to be a painter. guy was in his mid-50s.

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    12 days ago

    The AI-related bullshit definitely sucks the fun out of programming, but carpenters still have to deal with customers…

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        Exactly, becoming a carpenter still retains one major issue with the programming profession. Several programmers I know even have to deal directly with the company’s customers (though they tend to complain more about their own management).

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    11 days ago

    I’m dreaming of a niche bakery when legislation allows it and the clanker clanking intensifies even more. Yes a bakery for special “enhanced” and calming pastry and other delights.

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      11 days ago

      If you source hemp-derived ingredients, it’s legal under the farm bill. See Willy’s Remedy as an example. It costs more since the concentration is very low in hemp.

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      11 days ago

      This is my current fantasy about what I’ll do when the AI takes my job.

      In NZ there’s (very) limited reptile options, but I own a bearded dragon and each time she lays a clutch of eggs I wonder why I don’t just quit my job and build a dragon nursery and get a male and start breeding them for fun and profit.

      How’s the pay?

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        It’s only been an investment for me so far. I have a bunch of animals for breeding once they mature, and I’ve started colonies of feeders (mice and horn worms) and colonies of cleanup crew (springtails and isopods).

        I’m hoping for my first clutches next season.

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    12 days ago

    I’ve always done both - software for a living, woodworking for fun and improving my family’s life. For me both are great creative outlets.

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    12 days ago

    My dad went from db management to running a grocery store.

    My one friend is now becoming an HVAC technician