• elixir_fan@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    We have a very simple purity test, don’t support genocide or wars on the global south and we have no issue with you. If you can’t agree on that much then there’s no reason why we should accommodate you.

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      4 days ago

      I don’t either but I’m not going to aid fascists by out casting moderates. You can do that and reap what you sow.

      • Buhbyelittlegumshoe@lemmy.ml
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        4 days ago

        The fascists and the ‘moderates’ will bridge the gap. Think of the German SDP working with the Freikorps. They come from the same money.

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              3 days ago

              I vote Democrat and I’m none of those things. I’d argue most are vehemently opposed to fascism and prefer democracy.

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                21 hours ago

                The people you vote for, statistically end up supporting fascism. They might not realize it, but their actions have clear consequences. So the real question is, why do you vote Democrat?

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                  19 hours ago

                  This sounds like tankie nonsene. Because I support the candidate over the fascist Republicans. I’m liberal so I vote for the more liberal candidate, obviously.

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                    Inadvertently, it doesn’t matter who you are voting for, because all candidates at all levels (especially at the higher ones), will “compromise” because “of political realities”. They’ll vote for the corporation, the military, the imperialist foreign policy, the gutting of any semblance of social safeties, etc. But then they’ll excuse it to you, and tell you they are with you. And then do it again the next time. Tell me honestly that the candidates you’ve voted for so far haven’t followed this pattern of behavior.

                    It doesn’t mean they are fascist or evil themselves. They are just part of a party that is ideologically and institutionally part of a particular system that serves capital. Sometimes they are allowed to pursue some policy that doesn’t really affect capital, just because it helps keep the facade up, like same-sex marriage, or some token of welfare. More often they are allowed to speak about these things but hindered at implementing them. And that’s why they’ll always be fascists too. Just polite ones.

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                You are those things if you vote democrat, since that is what the democrats are. What you say you are does not matter, what matters is what you do and who you help and you are helping fascist genociders.

                The democrats work with the republicans. The democrats started the genocide in Gaza, and the majority of palestinians died under them. ICE was expanded under democrats, Tom Homan was made the leader of ICE under democrats. Democrats had police beat the shit out of peaceful protesters. Democrats deported more than Trump 1 and ran on being harsher on immigration than Trump. When you support Democrats thats what you support.
                The patriot act was extended under democrats. The crime bill was written by Joe Biden.

                Just because they aren’t rude about it doesn’t make them any better.

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        4 days ago

        If people are okay with, say, me and my family being genocided just because of where we were born, why should I care whether they identify as moderate or whatever else? Again, don’t agree with genocide and wars on our countries and you’re welcome. It’s not that much to ask lmao.

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        4 days ago

        Okay, so a person says

        We have a very simple purity test, don’t support genocide or wars on the global south and we have no issue with you.

        and then, in the course of responding to them, you write,

        I’m not going to aid fascists by out casting moderates. You can do that and reap what you sow.

        What moderates are being outcast by the proposed purity test? Is supporting half of the genocide moderate enough to be included? Is supporting half of the proxy wars moderate enough to be included? Which people, holding pro-genocide attitudes, do you think we ahould be trying to include, to beat the fascists?

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          The funny part is I don’t support genocide anywhere…anywhere. Palestine, Ukraine, the Uyghars, Darfur, etc… let’s see if the tankies pass this purity test.

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            In order; Palestine(genocide commited by your countries), Ukraine(Not a genocide, false myth by Banderite fascists), Uyghurs(Not a genocide, false myth by Zenz, a German who has never put one foot in Xinjiang), Darfur(Genocide backed by NATO and friends)

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            4 days ago

            You do support the right of liberals to be moderate over my right to be alive and my country to not be invaded, based on your own words. You also don’t even know how to spell Uyghur, nor anything else on the matter.

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              4 days ago

              This makes no sense from anything I wrote. Absolutely no sense. And I don’t prove read my spelling, that I apologize on.