• VoluntarySpud@lemmy.zip
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      3 days ago

      I vote Democrat and I’m none of those things. I’d argue most are vehemently opposed to fascism and prefer democracy.

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        8 hours ago

        The people you vote for, statistically end up supporting fascism. They might not realize it, but their actions have clear consequences. So the real question is, why do you vote Democrat?

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          5 hours ago

          This sounds like tankie nonsene. Because I support the candidate over the fascist Republicans. I’m liberal so I vote for the more liberal candidate, obviously.

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            Inadvertently, it doesn’t matter who you are voting for, because all candidates at all levels (especially at the higher ones), will “compromise” because “of political realities”. They’ll vote for the corporation, the military, the imperialist foreign policy, the gutting of any semblance of social safeties, etc. But then they’ll excuse it to you, and tell you they are with you. And then do it again the next time. Tell me honestly that the candidates you’ve voted for so far haven’t followed this pattern of behavior.

            It doesn’t mean they are fascist or evil themselves. They are just part of a party that is ideologically and institutionally part of a particular system that serves capital. Sometimes they are allowed to pursue some policy that doesn’t really affect capital, just because it helps keep the facade up, like same-sex marriage, or some token of welfare. More often they are allowed to speak about these things but hindered at implementing them. And that’s why they’ll always be fascists too. Just polite ones.

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        3 days ago

        You are those things if you vote democrat, since that is what the democrats are. What you say you are does not matter, what matters is what you do and who you help and you are helping fascist genociders.

        The democrats work with the republicans. The democrats started the genocide in Gaza, and the majority of palestinians died under them. ICE was expanded under democrats, Tom Homan was made the leader of ICE under democrats. Democrats had police beat the shit out of peaceful protesters. Democrats deported more than Trump 1 and ran on being harsher on immigration than Trump. When you support Democrats thats what you support.
        The patriot act was extended under democrats. The crime bill was written by Joe Biden.

        Just because they aren’t rude about it doesn’t make them any better.