Well. ACTUALLY, it’s very simple you see every time you spin up a new linux box a little piece of Linus Torvold’s soul get’s imprinted in the CPU registers and then that fragment handles everything from there.
“It’s called a shovel,” said the Senior Wrangler. “I’ve seen the gardeners use them. You stick the sharp end in the ground. Then it gets a bit technical.”
—Terry Pratchett: Reaper ManIt’s a series of files (tubes)!
And files that can be deleted while even in use just because.
I creating my Meshtastic network and was having trouble setting a node with the right settings and wanted to plug in the unit into my Lenovo laptop running Fedora installed from the factory.
I click serial connection. The web app recognized the connection. Click connect. Failed. Tried different plugs and ports. Failed. Searched online and I need to do a bunch of things in terminal to get it to work properly.
Normally I would spend a few hours figuring it out. Instead…
Pulled out my 15 year old PC running win10. Plugged in, instantly worked.
I reeeeally want this to be my primary laptop, but man. I am just struggling on some basic things.
Ah, permissions chicanery. Had to deal with that with connecting a Switch 2 controller with a WebUSB enabler. To be fair, once you add the right udev rules (it is a bit of a pain, yes), it should work for any other devices of the same type (I think it’s any with the same USB ID so like same manufacturer and model? Don’t quote me on that though). Still, I wish Chromium (since Firefox as far as I know still doesn’t support WebUSB) could sort it out by itself (like just have an “allow” button rather than writing udev config files yourself) or at least be a bit more helpful in pointing you the right way with a helpful error message.
You do have to get used to weird edge cases like these throwing a spanner in the works, just like you have weird stuff on Windows (trying to get some older Android devices to communicate in fastboot mode in Windows makes me feel like Odysseus).
Asking around and screwing around usually gets you places though. Eventually you find something.
My PC just programmed all the units in my mesh in around 5 minutes. It would have likely taken longer trying to fix the USB connector. I should figure out how to fix this edge case so I don’t have to take my old PC out again.
“Why is this thing coded for Windows and hostile to Linux giving me problems on Linux? Windows is better.”
Maybe you should direct your ire towards rhe shitty companies making their software stacks proprietary? And isn’t this like a one-time setup thing? You could have spun up a VM and been on your way.
After using Linux for a few years, I’ve noticed a pattern of people giving up and blaming the OS when it is invariably something trivial. I think these people should just use Windows and stop painting their own laziness as the operating system’s problem.
Windows is designed to “just work” at the cost of sucking up your data and violating your privacy and owning your computer. If the one-time set up of a meshtastic network justifies adopting all of that as your maim computer for some reason, I’m not even sure why you’re interested in Linux in the first place.
What they are talking about is an open source piece of software (Meshtastic) that’s using a well-known (if specific to Chromium) standard, WebUSB. It’s a genuine pain point, and stuff like this needs to work out of the box, no manually written udev rules required.
it will never be your main mschine of you don’t use it as your main machine.
If it can’t do everything your main machine needs to do, it can’t possibly become your main machine.
But it CAN do it, it just needs a bit of work, be it by yourself oor by someone on the devs’ side
Counter argument. What is the goal of owning a computer in the first place? Needing to do “a bit of work” with the OS or actual work.
I don’t want to be a Linux developer. I want to do work. Sometimes I feel like I’m too much developer.
I took an operating system class in college that involved basicly creating a baby OS. Lot of fun.
20 years this year and I still am not sure how it is supposed to be pronounced (in english)
/ˈlɪnuks/
That’s the thing, his pronounciation there is eerlie similar to what I’m used to spanish (where it is pronounced just as it is spelt) that my ol brain kind of does a short-circuit and can’t assimilate the fact that it’s just kind of the same thing in both languages and if it’s in the middle of a sentence I have to go back to speaking my crappy non-native english
Not sure if this helps, but in English (my native language), I would pronounce it with a short “i”, like in “sit”. You could also pronounce it with a Spanish “i” (same as Finnish “i” to my ears). I would not pronounce it with a long English “i” because the vowel length is too long and doesn’t sound right.
linux
The linux is silent
it’s pronounced
gifNow I just wanna know whether
GNUisGuh-nooorJuh-nooorGee-en-yoothe U is silent
I haven’t used Linux regularly since 2006, which either means I’m out of the loop or an ancient bearer of lost knowledge:
I think it’s “G’noo” like “G’day” or “G’night.”
The GNU project has a page on it:
It seems he got it correct without knowing.
G’noo be my distro of choice, m’lady
lmao
a newt?
It’s
Gee-nyooGnu like the animal
Wildebeest
yiff*guy over here trying to start a war
I think it’s /ˈlɪn.əks/ It’s horritic tho, tbh
LIH-nucks (rhymes with “tin bucks”).
It is pronounced like that but they don’t rhyme at all
This gon be another gif or gif situation.
Line-yoox.
Loon - icks
So close the lunatic then.
Loin-ughs
Lean-uggs
Lin-ix
except it’s derived from Linus’s name, which in finnish is pronounced as Lee-noos, so technically it should be Lee-noox.
In reality tho? Nobody cares
It’s pronounced like Liminiux. Lominoliux is also acceptable.
actually, it’s lomi-lominux
I just say liinus. Or liinuksi.
Gah Nuu plus Line-ucks
“As I’ve taken to calling it”
“It just works, so who tf cares?”
It’s just files, how hard could it be 🤷
I fucking wish
There is a kernel of truth to this.
Check out dbus and notify.
And then unpack your dracut initrd.That killed a Plan9 (and 9front) fan.
“What’s a file anyways, more than a bunch of bytes in a specific order?”
Two decades! Shit. Memes are meant to make me depressed.
Ironic typo?
Damn it. No
🙋♂️: “How does Linux work?”
👨💻: “…does it?”
I compiled Linux last week and I don’t even know how it works
I’ve installed Debian on a 16 year old iomega nas drive single board arm system. Special drive format, with blanking the first 32 bytes with zeros for a weird boot process. Installed OpenMediaVault on top of that.
I don’t know how any of it works, I just search the web and cobble stuff together.
First you get a file(kernel source), then use another file to change the file, then you have a kernel, but the kernel(file) in the the file system, then use a magic boot file to run the file. That’s basically it?
The UX combines with various Lines.
Penguin thingies blah blah gay furry nerd shit blah blah hackers blah blah
gay furry nerd
You rang?
Ding ding ding! We have a winner, folks! 😁
When Linux is working, one does not tempt fate by asking why.
One does not ask how the Linux is working, one only asks if.
As someone who uses Linux every day for work, I don’t know how to fix shit. I’m not paid to troubleshoot
I was unaware ifconfig was no longer a thing a little while back. boy oh boy did it take a long time to troubleshoot.
Say what? I used it last week to check on a secondary NIC. I am also extremely old… Almost as old as Linus.
it’s still present on a few distros but 10-15 years ago, some existing ip and new /iproute2 came along made better the interaction.
