I’ve gotten very into self-hosting (on device, not on a server) my own search engine, but searxng is unbearably clunky to make run on my Gentoo OpenRC machine. Two projects stuck out, 4get and omnisearch, but which of these do you think is the best and do you know other ones?
Kagi’s on top ! It’s a few bucks per month, but search results are amazing, it surface small websites and block slop.
It even allows you to block useless websites like pinterest
I have heard Kagi just layers their own special sauce atop Google’s index?
It is a unique service with a real value prop, I just want to make sure we are accurate here…
https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo Just putting it out there.
dud they remove yandex? one of the few good search engines for content that doesn’t follow the DMCA?
Kagi is trash. I can’t be bothered elaborating.
Why even bother commenting this if you’re not willing to elaborate?
To make it known that there is this belief, and there is not unanimous support for Kagi.
That belief that something is trash exists for literally everything so it’s effectively a worthless stance without context.
I don’t have the answer to your qustion, but I like to occasionally consider that there is no such thing as a stupid action, only an action that I don’t understand.
Why would someone talk like that?
Some possibilities:
These three immediately jump at me, because I see people preaching Kagi in a manner of an influence op.
So these negs could be part of the op.
Again. Not saying I know. I don’t. And I likely won’t use Kagi myself. It’s just fun to speculate a bit.
LLM much?
That was not an LLM. That said, I do use a chatbot like once a week. Maybe some of their speegh patterns are rubbing off?
I appreciate your honesty and you seem like you want to do your best. I’m sorry we aren’t a more supportive group.
Yes, it has been scientifically proven that you are getting dumber by using an LLM regularly to do your thinking for you. Congratulations.
You DO realize that you’re firing on your own team, right?
Let’s not do that, here. This is our community, it’s what you and I make of it.
I am most definitely not on the same team as people that use chatbots so often they start to mimic their slop-style writing techniques. Worry about yourself, you don’t get to decide what team I am on, tyvm.
Also, I am not “just being an ass”, I am paraphrasing MIT scientific research.
Pretty please?
Price is a big one. That aside I didn’t like the interface, I couldn’t consistently find the results I was looking for, and again price.
I’d maybe be willing to pay $5 a month for a good search engine. $10 a month even. But $10 a month knowing half my money is paying for bundled AI searches I never wanted nor asked for is a bridge to far. I’m not militantly anti-AI, but I don’t want to be forced to pay for it if I want Kagi to be even remotely useful (300 searches is a joke).
300 is low, i agree. but idk, if it’s a free product, then YOU are the product. is my data still being used in ways that profit a few and invade my privacy? probably, but less than google i hope.
I am on the anti-AI side of things, by nature of being human. and yeah, there’s some AI shit in kagi, as with seemingly all others. but it at least it’s opt-in (i think). i’ve never seen it shoved in my face, which i can’t say for example duckduckgo.
can’t tell u what price is best for you, or what UI u prefer. but trash? no. google is trash.