• SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip
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        17 hours ago

        Just to recap what we may have forgotten:

        1. Netanyahu knew the attack was coming.
        2. IDF forces (that Hamas had planned to attack) were unaccountably withdrawn from the area when it started.
        3. A lot of the deaths and destruction at the kibbutzes were the result of IDF fire.
        4. In the Hamas videos, a lot of the attackers seemed confused and put off by finding civilians rather than soldiers as their targets.

        Now, not to get all conspiracy-brained, but I have to wonder whom to condemn for the Oct. 7th civilian death toll.

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          8 hours ago

          That a narrative. And it is a bit conspiracy brained, tbh. I totally believe that Netanyahu allowed the attack, just like Bush/Chaney allowed the Sept 11 attacks. They knew an action was imminent and wanted it as an excuse. I think neither knew of the scope. I don’t buy the ‘we didn’t think our targets were supposed to be civilians but we killed them anyway’ excuse. And you’re ignoring the constant missiles being fired indiscriminately at Israel civilians. Regardless, Israel has overreacted to such an extent that is not an reaction but a separate action of malice. I believe they have lost their right to exist as a country in its current form.

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        18 hours ago

        At some point the October attacks stopped being anything but an excuse.

        I remember reading about them and thinking; “damn, the response will be BAD”, and as the days turned into weeks turned into months turned into years of constant brutal systematic violence, Israel quickly lost all my sympathy they got from the attacks.

        I have held no special love for the Palestinians, nor Israel for that matter, but Israel is doing it’s best to make sure to show everyone just how little sympathy they deserve.

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          8 hours ago

          I agree 100%. I actually think that Israel has lost its right to exist in its current form. Of course one might say that about the U.S. also.