Reddit CEO says facial verification may be introduced. Ostensibly to prevent bots.

But we all know how dangerous this can be. But most likely Reddit users will just accept it.

Although they have a great free analogue right under their noses - Lemmy. Which is many times better than its competitor.

I wish more people would discover Lemmy, but that’s unlikely.

  • Lemmchen@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Okay, I think this is just ragebait. The real quote is:

    The most lightweight way is with something like Face ID or Touch ID in the family of technology called passkeys; they actually require human presence.

    Which isn’t even closely the same as requiring manual ID verification. This is about requiring PassKeys with a special biometric confirmation requirement.

  • Bosht@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Dead internet theory becoming more true by the day. I mean, it was already true, now it’s just more true.

  • Silver Needle@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    The only reason why Reddit is anywhere close to where it is right now and not considered the sweaty place it was was right after 4Chan in dissociability is Reddit’s data sharing with Google and the reception of better search rankings.

  • bluejayway@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    a big reason people won’t come to lemmy is the content is a political echo chamber and defederation is confusing as a concept to most people. i agree with most political opinions i see on here, but it’s kind of annoying to just see politics every time i open the app. maybe i just need to get better at tuning my feed, but most of the popular subs are political in some way.

    • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      politics is at lemmy’s core, it was literally created by communists & socialists to serve as an online community for leftists; not rightists like liberals or conservatives.

      • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Plus…there is a LOT to talk about these days, and most sane takes have been effectively banned from all large platforms lmao, with people helping all this along by voluntarily censoring the DUMBEST FUCKING WORDS in their memes, even, just to further their own reach within those shit holes.

        So. Yeah, Lemmy be political.

        • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 months ago

          most sane takes have been effectively banned from all large platforms lmao,

          Buckle up, it’s about to get a lot worse when you won’t even be allowed to use social media until you submit to a face scan like op was trying to share.

          • H3ckler26@lemmy.org
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            2 months ago

            Yeah….this is the internet……I ain’t showing face. Ass yes, face….not a chance!

          • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            2 months ago

            And every person too busy or just aloof to bother learning about any of this stuff will just glibly hand it all over, lovely stuff headed our way.

            • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Yes and I got it earlier; it’s just hard to resist responding based on stereotypes. Lol

                • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                  2 months ago

                  i got sick of commiserating so i cut off centralized media from my life and my internet experience got reset back to 1995; it’s kind of rediscovering what the internet is like all over again.

    • H3ckler26@lemmy.org
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      2 months ago

      Dude………nobody was gonna tell me there’s an app? I’m over here on brave just chillin. 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      I agree for the most part. But everything isn’t just a different political view.

      You’re literally posting this in an instance where lots of people actively deny the extent of Stalins crimes. Justifying it as “some countries miss the soviet, so he can’t have been that bad” as if the Soviet ended with Stalin and didn’t continue on for decades after.

      I don’t know about you. But that is as far away from an echo chamber I think you can get.

  • MoonMelon@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    There’s no way they want to eliminate bot traffic, it would kill 2/3rds of their traffic instantly. So this just means, “bots that aren’t paying us.”

    • Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      I mean it’s also trivially easy for ai to make a photorealistic image of a human, i dont see how this could possibly ever work. Whatever test they apply would be by definition cheatable by AI.

    • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      If not already, I assume they’ll offer a for-fee API for bots.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Reddit, very famously, used bot traffic at its inception to create the illusion of a community big enough to compete with Digg.

      It was the OG “fake it till you make it” business.

      As the company implements an increasingly draconian “ban every account that looks at me sideways” admin policy, I’m not sure if “2/3rds of the traiffc” isn’t lowballing it. There are entire threads - from initial post to bullshit bottom comment - that get created by bot traffic on the modern site. It’s a full blown hall of mirrors over there.

      • utopiah@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        OG “fake it till you make it” business.

        Feels like 99% of “social” network startups. The dead Internet theory started before the LLM craze.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Goes back to email. Easier to create a machine that churns out digital messages than find humans to do the work manually. So you get increasing loads of spam and gibberish, attempting to out-shout one another in a digital space with no bureaucratic regulation or material limits.

          That said, one thing that made early social media like Facebook and MySpace and Livejournal appear valuable was the degree of human interaction. What’s more, the interpersonal networks that formed between verified humans gave enormous value to communications across the platform.

          Facebook did a pretty good job, early on, of limiting who could join based on authentication through college admin offices. MySpace had a large cohort of real human artists producing real human music, which attracted a real human following. Livejournal predated a lot of advertisement-by-blogging. After the Dot-Com bubble burst, this is where you could see green shoots of economic value in a digital space.

          We’ve demolished all that chasing fictitious capital. How valuable it was in practice is debatable, of course. But it’s all gone now.

              • Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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                2 months ago

                I’m no heritage Tumblr user, I didn’t have an account until about a year ago, but I used to browse the site every now and then. I’d say the current userbase is a joy to be around, but the bots are everywhere. Every comment section on an artist’s post eventually will get a “Are you open for comms?” post. We still get the porn bots funnily enough. Also the occasional account takeovers and then bots DMming people.

                But like in terms of real people posting? I don’t even know if I’ve ever had a bot post come up on my feed, for both the following feed and “for you” feed. Plus Tumblr does have an option to look at chronological posts and you can actually reach the end of the page eventually!

                We all recently rioted and got the staff to revert a shitty twitter-like update within a day or so, which was nice. I still want wafrn to improve and replace Tumblr so we can escape the PoS CEO, but alas.

              • sakuraba@lemmy.ml
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                2 months ago

                Take mine too. It’s really funny how tumblr banned porn so all the gooners went to twitter and now tumblr is kinda healthy with a really vocal userbase that WILL backlash at any attempt on enshittifying the platform

                The biggest con with tumblr is the CEO, but he’s too busy making everyone distrust Wordpress.

      • krisevol@lemmus.orgEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I read somewhere that it’s estimated that reddit is 90% bots in the comments, and we already know 99% of front page context is from bots accounts.

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      JUST IN: Reddit CEO says company is considering requiring all bots on the platform to click on ads in order to drive revenue to Reddit.

    • Prove_your_argument@piefed.socialEnglish
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      2 months ago

      That’s not the point of this.

      The point of this is to remove unpaid/unauthorized bots. They want their engagement figures to look even better, and they don’t want people offering up their advertisements propaganda without paying up.

      Their goal will never be to eliminate bots because undoubtedly that is something they want to sell access to and use themselves.

      By guaranteeing that certain posts are bona fide humans, their data is more valuable to sell for AI data as well… and they probably have a way to dox users with this too.

  • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    2 months ago

    So when is this happening, so we can mentally and logistically prepare for the next influx of new users into the fediverse?