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A thread of the posts by @cait.bsky.social. They read as follows:

I had my first talk therapy session with my new therapist and she hit me with the “you’re very self-aware” ☹️

not the “pleasure to have in class” of therapy

that’s right, I know all the tools and have developed countertools so they no longer work. welcome to thunderdome

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  • verdare@piefed.blahaj.zoneOP
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    13 hours ago

    Self-awareness is a good thing, but it’s also the bottom of the barrel when fishing for compliments. In therapy, specifically, the implied sentiment is, “Well, at least you know how fucked up you are.”

    She’s making the comparison to the “pleasure to have in class” line, because it’s similar. If a teacher genuinely has good things to say about a student, it’s probably going to be more specific (i.e. – they were inquisitive, a quick study, made their peers laugh, etc). “Pleasure to have in class,” by contrast, is a generic compliment that doesn’t really say anything.

    EDIT: Okay, so based on a few of the latest responses, I felt that I should clarify something. I don’t think people who use these phrases intend for them to be insults or demeaning in any way—this includes Cait’s therapist in the original post. It’s just that it can be perceived that way, which is what I think the post was making fun of.

    If you’re also an introspective, self-critical person, please don’t take someone saying this to you as an affirmation of your faults. It’s almost certainly an innocuous and genuine observation.

    • Tiresia@slrpnk.net
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      15 hours ago

      but it’s also the bottom of the barrel when fishing for compliments.

      I can see that you have good intentions…

      Really, though, there is no bottom of the barrel. Self-awareness is something that some people in therapy genuinely lack. Good intentions are something that some people genuinely lack. Kindness is something that someone people genuinely lack. Being capable of being unobtrusive for others is something some people genuinely lack.

      These are not the bottom of the barrel, but solid foundations you can build from. Someone with good self-awareness can give constructive feedback both in session and irl. Someone with good intentions will actually try to improve rather than use therapy as a place to vent. Someone who is kind will use the skills and motivation they gain in therapy to build a nice community for themselves because it is reciprocal.

      Imagine OOP except without self-awareness. Their subconscious has developed countertools that make therapy ineffective but they are not able to describe those countertools or even know their functioning. All they can say is that the therapy doesn’t work. That sucks so much worse than the situation OOP is actually in.

    • Skunk [any]@lemmy.zip
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      14 hours ago

      Oh my god I literally just now got why my therapist kept saying that. I hate people do this and then expect me to get it. Especially therapists they should know better. If you try to sugarcoat it I won’t get it almost guaranteed. Fucks sake what a waste of a time she was. Should have known something was up with how defensive about Israel she was…

      • im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
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        10 hours ago

        I don’t the only that’s necessarily what your therapist was getting at.

        I’m not defending her stance on Israel btw. Also her stance on Israel might imply religious beliefs and that’s a whole other conversation.

        However, I disagree with the commenter that said self-awareness is a good thing.

        If you want to go through life empowering others, avoiding doing any harm of any kind, and leaving the world somehow better for your existence, then yes self awareness is a good thing.

        However, if you want to be happy, satisfied, and go through life being comfortable and not require therapy, then self awareness is most definitely not a good thing.

        That is to say, self awareness is highly correlated with anxiety and depression.

      • verdare@piefed.blahaj.zoneOP
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        12 hours ago

        I don’t think your therapists necessarily meant it in an insulting way.

        … with how defensive about Israel she was…

        Oh. Yeah, time for a new therapist, then. Can’t expect healthcare professionals to share all of your political beliefs, but not simping for genocidal ethnostates is a pretty low bar.

        • Skunk [any]@lemmy.zip
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          12 hours ago

          Oh this was years ago I wasn’t good at saying no to people and standing up for myself. Also kept believing what others said over what I thought since my memory is bad and I zone out a lot.

      • BurgerBaron@quokk.au
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        13 hours ago

        I can’t handle the idea of paying someone like that even a single time, I’d feel so ripped off and violated.